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Old 02-26-2019, 12:09 PM   #16
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Thanks for the comments!

Yes; I had noticed that thread ( http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=961574 ) and posted a reply to it.

To avoid confusion, outside of said thread, I have never seen an embroidered version of the "standard" Red Cross collar patches, either (only the elaborate pattern for fully-qualified physicians seen in post # 9 above, which I have only ever seen in the fully-embroidered from).

The soft collar patches seen in post # 10 came in woven form only and were worn on the jacket of an (unattractive and rather impractical) old model of work uniform that consisted of a bib overall and a very plain jacket with only a single, internal pocket.

Just for additional illustration, here are two garments on which some of the above insignia were worn.

The stiff, piped collar patches I have shown in posts # 8 and 9 were worn on the tunic of the old grey service uniform as worn well into the 1990s, when it was replaced by a civilian-looking service dress with dark blue suit coats and light-grey pants. Also note DRK sleeve patch, duty position insignia and trade badge:
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:11 PM   #17
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This is the old-model Einsatzanzug I was referring to in some of the above posts.

Note that the visored cap seen on the left was not worn with this uniform, only with the service dress. The Einsatzanzug was worn with the sidecap seen on the right and later a cornflower-blue beret.

Except for the blue-grey color (and, obviously, the insignia), this uniform was identical to the Bundeswehr's olive-green field uniform worn at the time.
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:51 PM   #18
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Time for me to add some uniforms from my collection to this excellent thread. I'll start with the one posted above. Mine is complete with the pants. You will note that it has woven collar insignia. The slip-on shoulder boards were missing when I bought this uniform. The DRK insignia is worn on both arms of this tunic.
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:55 PM   #19
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The pants for the tunic above.
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:02 PM   #20
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Here is an unusual older tunic. It has hidden pockets and a different type of collar badges. They are longer and appear to be somewhat narrower. It has the round DRK insignia on the left arm only and a rank stripe on the lower left arm. The material in this tunic is very rough and reminds of the tunic material used in the final stages of the uniforms of the Wehrmacht.
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:06 PM   #21
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A newer tunic. Still dark grey but of a lighter shade of grey and much better material than the earlier ones that I have posted. This one comes with the DRK INSTRUSTORS cuff band on the lower left arm.
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:26 AM   #22
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Hallo
Ich bin auch DRK Sammler. Aber spezialisiere mich eher auf die Zeit vor 1945 und das Saarländische rote Kreuz bis 1957.
Danke für deine Beiträge die sind sehr interessant.

Gruss
Sascha

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Hello
I am also a DRK collector. But I specialize more in the time before 1945 and the Saarland Red Cross until 1957.
Thanks for your contributions which are very interesting.

Greeting
Sascha

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Old 03-05-2019, 09:39 AM   #23
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I am deleting my earlier response as it should have been done via PM.

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Old 03-05-2019, 11:14 AM   #24
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Thanks for sharing your items!


I am not familiar with the first uniform. It appears to be identical to the Bundeswehr's model 1956 Kampfanzug [battle dress] (the infamous "Filzlaus") in cut and material and be a predecessor to the Einsatzanzug I have shown.



The second one is an older model of tunic. I have a copy of the 1965 uniform regulations where its is described as follows:
"Dienstrock (Blusenschnitt), einreihig, mit verdeckter Leiste, vier eingeschnittenen Taschen mit geknöpften Klappen, Liegekragen, offen und geschlossen zu tragen, Kragenspiegel aus weißgrauen Tuch mit rotem Kreuz aus Emaille, Ärmelabzeichen am linken Oberarm, Knöpfe silber- bzw. goldgekörnt."

["Service tunic (blouse cut), single-breasted, with concealed button front, four slash pockets with buttoned flaps, flat collar to be worn open or closed, collar patches of white-grey cloth with enamel Red Cross, sleeve badge on the left upper arm, pebbled silver or gold buttons."]
(The service tunic with patch pockets and displayed buttons was worn concurrently.)

The stripe on the lower left sleeve is not a rank badge, but a long service award. In 1970, these were discontinued and replaced by ribbon bars. I have done a little thread on this subject over on the WRF:

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/bundes...awards-717605/



The red cuff title on the last tunic is not for an instructor, but for a Rotkreuzbeauftragter [roughly translated "Red Cross Commissioner"]. This was the DRK officer responsible for civil defence- and disaster relief matters on district level.

Below are my two examples of the cuff title for this duty position. Note that these two and yours are all different. (Narrower models with "ROTKREUZ-BEAUFTRAGTER" on a black and a red ribbed band with Russia braid borders, wider model with "RK BEAUFTRAGTER" on a red non-ribbed band with embroidered borders.) Personally, I have only ever seen the black cuff title in wear. (It is possible that the red ones were not worn by the Bavarian Red Cross. Many DRK insignia are standardized throughout the country, but others are specific to individual state-level organisations.)

(Cuff titles for instructors can be seen in post # 5. "EH-AUSBILDER" is for a first aid instructor ("EH" = "Erste Hilfe), "AUSBILDER" is for other instructors (and also worn by first aid instructors in the BRK) and "AUSBILDER" in gold is for those holding the duty position of Instruktor. This is a senior instructor with supervisory authority over the other instructors.)

As for the cloth: This model of service dress uniform was available in three different textile qualities. The 1992 catalog of the BRK's procurement agency still listed it as available in Kammgarn-Twill [worsted yarn], so-called Sanitätstrikot [medical tricot] of pure new wool and Diolen-Serge [diolen-serge], a mix of artificial fibre and wool. The light-blue service shirt (long or short sleeve) was available in a 50/50 cotton/polyester blend and 100% cotton. (This was at a time when the uniform was already in the early stages of being phased out.)
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:22 AM   #25
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HPL2008,

Thanks very much for your detailed response. Almost no information on post war German Red Cross is available here in North America. I will have to amend my inventory using your information.

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Old 03-05-2019, 11:30 AM   #26
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Gentlemen,
Now on to more uniforms from my collection.

The first one is a woman's tunic that appears to be from the Bayerisches DRK. Another tunic that is quite different from the post war DRK that one sees.
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:38 AM   #27
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Another interesting woman's tunic. This appears to be for a summer type working uniform. I suspect that pants would have been worn with this tunic/shirt but that is just a guess on my part. Size marking at the neck is 48. There are hidden plastic buttons and two large interior breast pockets.

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Old 03-05-2019, 11:57 AM   #28
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The dark blue female uniform was worn at the same time as the grey male service dress uniform seen in posts # 16 and # 21, and also phased out during the 1990s. It was worn with a skirt or trousers (the latter not permitted for the BRK, for some reason). In cold weather, a dark blue Loden coat was worn on top.)
The metal badge was actually not worn on the breast, but like a brooch at the throat of the light-blue service blouse. The basic badge was without the oak leaves border, the award badges came in three grades with a bronze, silver and gold border.

The short-sleeved fatigue jacket is part of the unattractive work uniform I had mentioned in post # 16, although I have only ever seen it in a long-sleeve version. It could be that this one was customized. (That uniform came in a male and female version, which were only different by their slightly different cuts and the way the jackets buttoned.)
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HPL2008,

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge of the post war DRK. Are you able to post a picture of the light blue service blouse that the broach would have been worn with?

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Old 03-05-2019, 12:28 PM   #30
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Are you able to post a picture of the light blue service blouse that the broach would have been worn with?
Sorry, no.

But to give you an idea, here's the male shirt, which was very similiar.

The female blouse differed in that it (obviously) buttoned the other way, had only one breast pocket (without a flap) on the left side and was, of course, of a slightly different cut to accommodate the female figure.

Both the male shirt and the female blouse came in long- and short sleeve versions and the same textile qualities.
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