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Old 01-03-2020, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default K Date Luger

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I have the opportunity to purchase a k date Luger. All of the markings line up as the should with the exception of three “S’s”. See attached images. Two on the top and one of the right side with military acceptance stamps and test proof marks. My understanding is there should be an “s” above the proof marks and then one above the “s/42” and then another to the rear.

Is this a variation? Or an issue?. Serial numbers match all the way through inclusive of the firing pin. Not an expert in this area, any advice appreciated.

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Old 01-03-2020, 07:49 PM   #2
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It would depend on the serial number, and even then there was no sharp break in when the markings were changed. There was a gradual elimination of the S inspection markings.

You indicate that the serial numbers match except as noted, and unless obviously renumbered I would think that would indicate that it is correct
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:54 PM   #3
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I like it a lot. A hard to find one too.
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:25 PM   #4
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Nice one.
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Old 01-03-2020, 10:07 PM   #5
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Thanks all! Any idea on a fair price?
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:28 PM   #6
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It is implied that the magazine is one of the original matches mags, many guns have matching number mags and parts but are not original these days.

It magazine is the original I would put value roughy between $3500 and $4000 this is also assuming finish is consistent with what very little can be seen in the few photos.
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:56 PM   #7
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The mag matches. See image. Serial numbers match all the way through the piece.
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Old 01-04-2020, 04:08 PM   #8
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Did notice that one side of the mag is ‘flattened’ a bit. See image.
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Old 01-04-2020, 04:15 PM   #9
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And a couple overall images
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Old 01-04-2020, 04:49 PM   #10
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Thanks for additional photos. IMO the mag is a post war re-number. IMO this hurts value more than just having an unaltered mismatch mag. A serious buyer will also check for any touch up blue, but no way I would speculate on that from photos. It also has chip in left grip by safety. I personally would not want to be into it for more than $2500 assuming blue is original. It may be a gun that some dealers could get in the low $3000 range.

Really outstanding finish and matched mag examples will bring $4000-$5000 and both matched mags with holster will be way above that amount
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Old 01-04-2020, 05:41 PM   #11
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I agree with Phild. That mag has been renumbered IMO. I'd look seriously at the rest of the numbering on the pistol, as well as the finish. Tough to tell from photos provided, but my spidey senses are going off!

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The magazine is "bubba'd" about as bad as I have seen. If anything else is renumbered it shouldn't be hard to tell.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:38 PM   #13
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See below, have taken images of the external number markings. This also does have a 1943 holster with it. See image below as well
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:53 PM   #14
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Forgot the underside of the barrel.
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Old 01-05-2020, 01:45 AM   #15
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I'm not seeing "halos" around the serial numbers on the barrel. This would indicate a reblue.
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