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Holland & Kreta FJ document group ¿fake?
Old 03-23-2020, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default Holland & Kreta FJ document group ¿fake?

Hi

I think that these documents are fake:

- I don´t like the signatures
- I don´t like "2./Fallsch. Jä. Rgt. 1"


What do you think? There are no better pictures

Regards. Joserra.
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Old 03-23-2020, 06:02 PM   #2
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To me,

a) the Student signature looks really odd, even in this crappy picture, after I´ve compared it to the (original) Student signatures in my collection

b) it looks like the same ink was used for all three signatures


To sum it up, the signatures are a red flag for me. Not papers I´d feel comfortable with at all.
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Old 03-24-2020, 09:13 AM   #3
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I'll join you!
I also consider the deeds to be copies
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:33 AM   #4
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all fakes ...
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:01 PM   #5
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The missing "g" is the kiss of death in my opinion. No German would abbreviate Jäger in this way.
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:22 PM   #6
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100% Fake.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:37 PM   #7
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The missing "g" is the kiss of death in my opinion. No German would abbreviate Jäger in this way.
Could be a typing error though. I would not take this as a clear red flag if it was the only problem with these documents.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:06 PM   #8
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Thanks

It was my opinion too: Fakes

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Old 03-24-2020, 02:17 PM   #9
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I agree with all advices, comparing with my stuff, it's clear that these are fakes..
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Old 03-24-2020, 04:36 PM   #10
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Old 03-26-2020, 05:36 AM   #11
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Generally using such photos to sell items indicates an attempt to deceive. Especially using badges to cover up the stamps.
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Old 03-26-2020, 04:38 PM   #12
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I suppose that national law and probable fakers intention can fit well together, as the stamps would show a swastika that is not allowed to be displayed e.g. in Germany so a potential buyer always has obstructed pics of an TR item that blurrs the judgement.
Some companies like Weitze offer you a clear view when you register on their site.
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