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Old 10-12-2019, 04:12 PM   #1
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Hello,

I am hoping that some of you would be willing to assist with the following 4 WW2 crosses.

I would like to know if these are:

A) genuine?
B) makers

I am not a collector, so any additional information would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Mark


Cross EK 2 (#1)
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:14 PM   #2
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Cross EK 2 (#2)
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:17 PM   #3
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Cross EK1 (#3) - looks very damaged
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:20 PM   #4
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Cross EK1 (#4) - boxed
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:20 PM   #5
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2 crosses of EK2-1939:

lower =so called "Ubergrosse" of Frank & Reif (=12)
upper =schinkel of Maybauer (=7)

Of course IMO

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Old 10-14-2019, 12:55 AM   #6
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2 crosses of EK2-1939:

lower =so called "Ubergrosse" of Frank & Reif (=12)
upper =schinkel of Maybauer (=7)

Of course IMO

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Thank you very much Jarek for your kindest of replies!

That is very helpful...

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Old 10-14-2019, 02:38 AM   #7
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hello M
beautiful lot of EK, all originals for me!
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hello M
beautiful lot of EK, all originals for me!
best regards
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Thank you Patrick, that is very kind!! Do you have a guess what could cause the surface damage to cross # 3? Mark
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Old 10-14-2019, 08:12 AM   #9
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yes I agree with Jarek in the two EK2

IMO the "damage" cross a W& L type ,but the inner core a little strange to me , the another a good Mayer type with PKZ marked mark
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I'm looking for EK2 1939:B.H.Mayer:A & B core,mm L/18 and schinkel type & missing envelope/tüte:22,35,122,128,137 EK1 1939:Round-3 Deschler frame & Friedrich Sedlatzek
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Old 10-14-2019, 11:25 AM   #10
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#3 is to me clearly is a 'ground dug' W&L EK2 with a replaced core - not W&L - .
Chemically cleaned frame -- the ones I cleaned up look the same as this one . We however left the old cores inside .
The rusting core pops the frame apart .

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yes I agree with Jarek in the two EK2

IMO the "damage" cross a W& L type ,but the inner core a little strange to me , the another a good Mayer type with PKZ marked mark
Thank you for the helpful info! Much appreciated
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#3 is to me clearly is a 'ground dug' W&L EK2 with a replaced core - not W&L - .
Chemically cleaned frame -- the ones I cleaned up look the same as this one . We however left the old cores inside .
The rusting core pops the frame apart .

Douglas
Very interesting Douglas! I do not know the history of the cross, but that makes it quite special... a cross with a great history. Forgive me my ignorance, when you say, that the core is replaced, does that mean a spare core (the section with the swastika) was substituted in the W&L frame?

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Old 10-15-2019, 09:12 PM   #13
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Hi M :
The core is replaced and not a war time W&L core in it now .
Looking at the shape of the frame it most likely had - no - remaining original core inside when it was dug up .

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Hi M :
The core is replaced and not a war time W&L core in it now .
Looking at the shape of the frame it most likely had - no - remaining original core inside when it was dug up .

Douglas
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