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Old 11-26-2019, 09:19 PM   #1
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the Jacobs RZM daggers marked 7/29, are the fittings always going to be the later plated type or can some be nickel silver on occasion? Do they always/ ever have the Roman numeral district markings? - thanks
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:54 PM   #2
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In regards to an M33 SS 7/29, my experience is that they will always have all nickel hilt fittings, nickel eagle / SS runes, void if an SS district stamp, painted black scabbards with nickel fittings.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:11 AM   #3
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In regards to an M33 SS 7/29, my experience is that they will always have all nickel hilt fittings, nickel eagle / SS runes, void if an SS district stamp, painted black scabbards with nickel fittings.
But, but i thought anything was possible, is your thinking that they will always be like that not ridiculous, corrupt and skewed.

Yes i am being sarcastic J.R, but i'm sure you get my point.
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But, but i thought anything was possible, is your thinking that they will always be like that not ridiculous, corrupt and skewed.

Yes i am being sarcastic J.R, but i'm sure you get my point.
JR is correct in every respect..I have two..Like twins.Seiler
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:33 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info.
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:53 AM   #6
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I have seen the scabbard both painted and Anodized, always with nickle silver fittings on the scabbard and the dagger.
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:18 AM   #7
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JR is correct in every respect..I have two..Like twins.Seiler
I wasn't doubting him, i was being sarcastic.
See post 6 of the link.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...1019627&page=4

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Old 11-27-2019, 10:59 AM   #8
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I wasn't doubting him, i was being sarcastic.
See post 6 of the link.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...1019627&page=4

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The difference between your two posts is JR says "IN my Experience" which means from what he has seen over the years but does leave the door open for "whatever" might be encountered later. In studying 3rd Reich daggers besides "textbook" examples encountered as of yet we can also study "materials and methods" which is also useful. JR leaves the door open and has handled a ton of daggers and does make a true study of what he likes. You on the other hand trashed a dagger with very basic knowledge. So, I would not use the word "sarcastic" to compare the two paragraphs.
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PS- The more I learn about this crap the more I realize what I do not know, if I am wrong as I have been before I am happy to make a public apology and learn. Oddly a lot of people can not do this.
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:10 PM   #9
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I too have seen these m7/29 with annodized/blued scabbards, but I think they originally came painted (sheen paint like found on M36 scabbards), with solid nickel fittings. My guess the annodized/blued added to increase these rare pieces' value
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:24 AM   #10
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My experiences are the same as JR.
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Old 11-28-2019, 06:15 AM   #11
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[QUOTE=BobI;8584915]The difference between your two posts is JR says "IN my Experience" which means from what he has seen over the years but does leave the door open for "whatever" might be encountered later. In studying 3rd Reich daggers besides "textbook" examples encountered as of yet we can also study "materials and methods" which is also useful. JR leaves the door open and has handled a ton of daggers and does make a true study of what he likes. You on the other hand trashed a dagger with very basic knowledge. So, I would not use the word "sarcastic" to compare the two paragraphs.
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Bob, do you really think when i made my comments on the dagger in my link it was not from what i have seen in my experience over a number of years, and as of date i have not seen any other's like that one, and yes i have also studied the materials of that particular type of dagger, so i would not say i "trashed a dagger with very basic knowledge". Perhaps we have a different idea of sarcasm, and there's no need for you to continually get defensive for J.R, isn't it time you pulled your head out of his ass.

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Old 11-28-2019, 07:22 AM   #12
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Based on recent info, I believe these were made by Klitterman and Moog, although we can’t be 100%.
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Based on recent info, I believe these were made by Klitterman and Moog, although we can’t be 100%.
That is what I have been hearing for a couple of years now, I don't remember how this came about but is the best info we have now. I will have to find mine, I can't remember if it has a painted or anodized scabbard. If I remember correctly the number on it is to a really bad man!!!
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:03 PM   #14
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That is what I have been hearing for a couple of years now, I don't remember how this came about but is the best info we have now. I will have to find mine, I can't remember if it has a painted or anodized scabbard. If I remember correctly the number on it is to a really bad man!!!
Bob,

I think one of the reasons is that the tang mark on the 7/29s is an inverted KM.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:58 PM   #15
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That makes sense, thanks Billy!
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