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Old 09-30-2007, 11:59 AM   #46
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MRRP pocket patch and tab.
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MRRP Beret patch.
Old 09-30-2007, 12:00 PM   #47
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Nice little MRRP beret patch.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:01 PM   #48
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Variation MRRP beret patch.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:04 PM   #49
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Cambodian special forces shoulder patch and tab.

One of my favourites.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:05 PM   #50
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Cambodian Army patches.

47th Brigade, 3rd Division.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:07 PM   #51
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Perhaps my favourite Army patch.

53rd Battalion.

A very striking patch!
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:09 PM   #52
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Here is an example of the patch worn by the 1st Armoured Division.

A copy of the Vietnamese design,with a few small changes, and with different colours.

This example is Vietnamese made and is typical of silk woven insignia of the period.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:17 PM   #53
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And to close,

2 examples of the "Republique Kymer" tab, and a SF tab at the top.

Hope all this was of interest and you enjoyed the patches.

I enjoyed showing them!



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Old 09-30-2007, 03:23 PM   #54
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Small world Patrick, for a number fo years I collected French Indochina concentrating on all the pockets badges of all units at DienBienPhu as well as uniforms for the period, french US and Brit. This after reading the exc. narrative on the battle Hell In A very Small Place and the other indochine great "Street Without Joy" both by Bernard Fall, an absolute genius.

Guess growing up around Ft. benning here (this is where the John Wayne Green Beret movie was filmed!) I just didn't pay a lot of attention to the VN stuff cuz it was literally everywhere, several tailor shops had bins of removed patches as first thing the GIs would do when back from nam is have the local in country made patches replaced. I've got a few items and hundreds of slides from my dad's two tours in nam in 64-65 and 68-69.

Regretting that I didn't pay more attentino then!

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Old 10-01-2007, 04:54 AM   #55
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Hy Chris and Patrick


Patrick very nices patches you have there, for all of you who know cambodia today, i think it s allmost impossible to find any Fank army stuff, so i guess the items that you have Ptrick are bring backs from US army personel in Cambodia??

I have heard that at the old Russian market in Phom Pehn people could find old military relics down there, personaly i have never seen anything old Fank military items. (10 years ago)

or maybe the fank items are coming from Vnese manufacturer??? who have produced the items during the war.
i would love to know the origine of those khmer patches-
just alittle short note to the Fank army unit, have you heard of the battle of Kompong Seila, where Khmer goverment troops were surrounded for weeks in the littel town and they had to send hunting partys to capture Khmer rouge so they could have something to eat, they actually killed their Khmer rouge Prisoniers so they could survive by eating them, Kompong Seila was compltly surrounded.


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yes Bernard Fall books are great, but the best books on Indochina, are from the French Journalist Lucien Bodar, its a triologie, every book about a different Period of the war, absolutly great,it s not only about the militray aspect but also the life and the political view of indochina at that time, he is talking in one book about General de lattre Tassigny who could reverse the situation after the fall of the Cao Bang and colonial route 4
, those books are top notch

By the way the RC4 debacle was one major defeat of the french war, i think equal to Dien Bien Phu

Im not sure if it s available in english maybe you should google him and see!!!!

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Old 10-01-2007, 01:37 PM   #56
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Hi Chris,

i can only imagine the things that were at your fingertips around the base!

If only you could have known the demand for the stuff a few decades later...

I agree on the book recommendations easily the most comprehensive introduction to the war in English you can find.
A recent book published is called " The last Valley", well worth picking up a copy if you find it.

If it not an impolite question,what unit(s) did your Father serve with during his tours?

Did you keep any of your French themed collection by the way?


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Patrick very nices patches you have there, for all of you who know cambodia today, i think it s allmost impossible to find any Fank army stuff, so i guess the items that you have Ptrick are bring backs from US army personel in Cambodia??

I have heard that at the old Russian market in Phom Pehn people could find old military relics down there, personaly i have never seen anything old Fank military items. (10 years ago)

or maybe the fank items are coming from Vnese manufacturer??? who have produced the items during the war.
i would love to know the origine of those khmer patches-

The vast majority of wartime Cambodian insignia i have seen has been of Thai manufacture, or S.Vietnamese origin.
A similar situation exits with Laotian insignia, most seems to have been produced outside the country for reasons i am not entirely sure of...it is an answer i am persuing myself.

I wonder too as to what happened to the military supplies that were in place when Cambodia fell...we know of the brutal,savage treatment inflicted upon the people who fought against the Khmer Rouge, but what happened to the materiels of war?

Was it destroyed during "Year Zero"? There should have been warehouses of uniforms and equipment captured throughout the country.

I do have a few examples of locally made Cambodian insignia originally sewn to my favourite Cambodian theatre uniform.
It belonged to a US advisor to MEDTC, and in keeping with the French colonial history is actually cut like a French 47/52 jump smock.

The grouping comprised 100+ items from the veteran and was spilt up to a few collectors. Luckily i was one of them.

Here is some locally made insignia for you.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:42 PM   #57
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His locally made jump wings and name tape.

Interestingly, his Cambodian wings are actually the French design, and were awarded to him in May 1974.

This is confirmed on his Cambodian award certificate that i have.

I also have his locally made metal wings, once again these are of the French style.

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Old 10-01-2007, 02:40 PM   #58
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Default Khmer Rouge Cap

I'm curious to see BKG's Khmer Rouge cap. In the early 90s, a friend of mine brought one back from VN for me, but I've always assumed it was fake. The visor is bare plastic and I understood that real KM cap visors were cloth or cloth covered (?).

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Hy Patrick,

is the camo pattern Duck hunter style, or any official Khmer camo?? it does not look like a french camo pattern that i know.

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Old 10-01-2007, 05:01 PM   #60
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Hy Jim


the khmer rouge cap, is likly to be a Mao style hat, something seen a lot during the cultural revolution, i cant tell you if there were localy made or made in China????

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