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Old 12-08-2019, 08:55 PM   #46
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We did our best. Good luck to who ever will buy that Thing and Kudos to the Tailor who build it, he did a good Job.


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Both I and AntiqueWW2 have pointed out, with arrows! lol, some questionable sewing.

Usually, one stitch out of place under the collar is enough for this forum to condemn an SS tunic for all time.

Now, that's what I call funny.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:12 PM   #47
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You still don't get it ? Read post # 39
I’m a little slow, being old and all.
I get the joke though, belatedly, but I get it...now.
Duh.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:53 AM   #48
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I wanted to post better pictures later today but after all the comment below it makes no sense anymore, regardless if the tunic might still be original , this one is burned, thanks to all your "nice" comments.
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:58 AM   #49
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Nice original SS tunic with a wonderful flatwire cuff title. The ghost of previous tabs (if true) shoudn't devalue the piece that much .....perhaps it was denazified (as per period law early post war) and the collar tab insignia put in the chest pocket and later reattached in a slightly different spot...Certainly matches the CT and boards,
unit wise. Try to find all that insignia to piece this together. A tall order!!!
And perhaps it was a promotion and new tab(s) added...who really knows?
I think the price is reasonable for what it represents (Waffen SS 1940) and if there is proof of the original officer, perhaps even wearing it, nobody would cry foul with the repositioned tabs! Good luck selling!
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Old 12-09-2019, 02:11 AM   #50
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Nick , Thanks a lot for your clear and honoust reply.
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Old 12-09-2019, 02:34 AM   #51
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nice original ss tunic with a wonderful flatwire cuff title. The ghost of previous tabs (if true) shoudn't devalue the piece that much .....perhaps it was denazified (as per period law early post war) and the collar tab insignia put in the chest pocket and later reattached in a slightly different spot...certainly matches the ct and boards,
unit wise. Try to find all that insignia to piece this together. A tall order!!!
And perhaps it was a promotion and new tab(s) added...who really knows?
I think the price is reasonable for what it represents (waffen ss 1940) and if there is proof of the original officer, perhaps even wearing it, nobody would cry foul with the repositioned tabs! Good luck selling!
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Old 12-09-2019, 02:37 AM   #52
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I see a nice tunic with very expensive insignia. Seller ask a reasonable amount, if someone will buy and find proofs will make a bargain.
The price asked is not for a nominative tunic.
Maybe someone know more about this tunic or group and is not writing all otherwise I would not detract so much.
As any item hand inspection to check wh eagle, restoring of shoulder boards and signs of wear is necessary.

Ps: if estand is dead and roomalso for top items the reason is a thread like this
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Old 12-09-2019, 02:48 AM   #53
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I see a nice tunic with very expensive insignia. Seller ask a reasonable amount, if someone will buy and find proofs will make a bargain.
The price asked is not for a nominative tunic.
Maybe someone know more about this tunic or group and is not writing all otherwise I would not detract so much.
As any item hand inspection to check wh eagle, restoring of shoulder boards and signs of wear is necessary.

Ps: if estand is dead and roomalso for top items the reason is a thread like this
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:37 AM   #54
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And what else i did post? It is an original Tunic with original Insignias. BUT, without any kind of solid Proof that it belong to that Guy, and with the Problems i see, it should be bought as Tunic with Insignias restored and not as Tunic untouched with a Name attached to it. I have at the Moment myself an SS Officer Tunic, stripped but one of the very few where i am able to tell what was once sewn on that Tunic. And when this one is finish and restored, i would still not ask 11K for it even mine is a lot more rare then this one here. Has no Name, and is restored, so i ask what the Tunic is worth in Parts. Jacket and Effects. Count together a Jacket, Cuff, Tabs, Eagle and Boards. I don't come anywhere close to 11K not even when i take Weitze Prices. Thats how i see it, and nothing else i posted here. If there is a Proof or a period Picture, perfect then 11K is absolut OK, cheap i would say.



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Nice original SS tunic with a wonderful flatwire cuff title. The ghost of previous tabs (if true) shoudn't devalue the piece that much .....perhaps it was denazified (as per period law early post war) and the collar tab insignia put in the chest pocket and later reattached in a slightly different spot...Certainly matches the CT and boards,
unit wise. Try to find all that insignia to piece this together. A tall order!!!
And perhaps it was a promotion and new tab(s) added...who really knows?
I think the price is reasonable for what it represents (Waffen SS 1940) and if there is proof of the original officer, perhaps even wearing it, nobody would cry foul with the repositioned tabs! Good luck selling!

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:24 AM   #55
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Hi,

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I wanted to post better pictures later today but after all the comment below it makes no sense anymore, regardless if the tunic might still be original , this one is burned, thanks to all your "nice" comments.
I'm still waiting your replies to my various questions...

I tried to help you with my questions and with "upgraded" versions of your ugly low fi pictures that you posted for a tunic that you want 11k for, now do not ask yourself why your tunic is "burned" by specialists !

If you are :
- posting low fi pictures
- do not accept to discuss your tunic

why did you post it on the WAF ?
Now with your disrespectful behaviour you will never be able to sell it there, at least for the price you want.

It would have been better to have it consignated with Weitze or Ratisbons, at least good pictures would have been made available...

It should be mandatory to post good and close up pictures for items over 1k on the e-stand, to propose an 11k item with horrible mobile phone pics is ridiculous and plain stupid in my humble opinion !

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:33 AM   #56
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I find your reply, Vince, totally no sense.
The guy is European yesterday was a Catholic holiday first day of Xmas time on a typical family weekend, today is working. Could you wait him?
I do not know this guy, indeed .
I am not him friend I do not really know him but... Jesus who are you to ask in this way pics?
If he wants he will do. He open a thread asking 11k, is a problem? Estand have many items now with unreasonable price, is a crime?
We will wait photos if will arrive.
Is not a trial here.
We are not judges.
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:41 AM   #57
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I find your reply, Vince, totally no sense.
The guy is European yesterday was a Catholic holiday first day of Xmas time on a typical family weekend, today is working. Could you wait him?
I do not know this guy, indeed .
I am not him friend I do not really know him but... Jesus who are you to ask in this way pics?
If he wants he will do. He open a thread asking 11k, is a problem? Estand have many items now with unreasonable price, is a crime?
We will wait photos if will arrive.
Is not a trial here.
We are not judges.
100% agree. Why all the agro? It's supposed to be a hobby....
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:46 AM   #58
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No one and really no one can say untouched or restored to this tunic w/o having it infront of a table. No matter based from actual or other photos.
I have seen many tunics upgraded war time, its impiossible to judge something like this to be 100% certain. Price is up to the seller, you can also buy it more expensive from dealers where Uniforms rest fo years.
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:03 AM   #59
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No one and really no one can say untouched or restored to this tunic w/o having it infront of a table. No matter based from actual or other photos.
I have seen many tunics upgraded war time, its impiossible to judge something like this to be 100% certain. Price is up to the seller, you can also buy it more expensive from dealers where Uniforms rest fo years.
As always I like you .
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:04 AM   #60
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To me it is what it is, i wrote very clear if noone agreed with with what i wrote, so it be. I am very well able to Judge any Tunic myself and this is what i did here. Fact is, if you sell a Tunic and try to attach a Name to it, then proof it solid that it belong to that Guy. If you are unable to do so, then sell it as what it is. I am always the one who say you need any Tunic what is done very well in Hands and only then you can be sure. With this one here i see what i see, and that is what i posted. When i look at past Threads and SS Tunics, where enough Tunics with way less Problems then this one got put straight in the Trash what i didn't do at all. Someone wants to sell his Tunic, he posted Pictures what are not really good, a nice Story he can't proof and ask 11K for it. Who ever buy it, should then at least know what he buys. There is another Deutschland Officer Tunic for sale, with Boards but without Tabs Cuff and Eagle. This one is sold from a Dealer for 2600. Now add Tabs, Cuff and Eagle and tell me if you end up with 11K? Everyone can ask what he likes, only it should be sold as what it is and not as untouched all orginal Tunic from Mr. X.

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No one and really no one can say untouched or restored to this tunic w/o having it infront of a table. No matter based from actual or other photos.
I have seen many tunics upgraded war time, its impiossible to judge something like this to be 100% certain. Price is up to the seller, you can also buy it more expensive from dealers where Uniforms rest fo years.

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