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Old 11-19-2015, 11:46 AM   #31
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Thank you. I am well aware this is not an Allach plate and bought it on that basis. I was simply enquiring if anyone had information on it, and that has now been supplied.
My question relating to the Hitler quote was to find out if this was taken from a speech or simply a direct quote taken from the Allach catalogue. If anyone has an answer to that question I would be much obliged.
Wessel,

No one is going to have information on that and 99% of forum participants cannot use the search button or a search engine, so they post the same item on every forum on the web thinking that magically *Poof* I have an answer. No, it does not work that way. The quote was a speech that predated Diebitsch and the catalog and used by Adolf Hitler. At one time I tried to source it and it was Hitler before Diebitsch. But he stole so much it probably predates him. I believe this is correct and spent a good amount of time on it but with Hitler and the 3rd Reich he may have taken it from someone else etc.
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Old 11-19-2015, 10:55 PM   #32
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The maker and origin of this plate was given to you already on another forum, what answer are you looking for that might be different?. The auction held in France forwarded a blow up of the trademark on request, if you hit it with magnification via camera or a loop you will see that it reads Kressmann Backmeyer.

Kressmann Backmayer is a U.S registeted trademark attached to Stephen Cook. Stephen cook is a well known author of Himmler"s Camelot. In addition to the publication trademark he retains a 2nd trademark under the name Kressmann Backmeyer that is allocated to porcelain manufacturer and goods. Two seperate trademarks that are identical with exception of the central motif where one is a life rune and the other for porcelain is the double sigrune, the second registered in 1999.

My suggestion to you is to not seek different answers to similar questions but to contact Stephen Cook and find out why he was manufacturing or attempting to manufacture an Allach style plate. He placed his own legitimate trademark on the piece so his thought process or intent does not appear to be fraudulent in nature and no others have been seen that I am aware of.

Again for you to review are the links that apply with the name and contact info for both trademarks. If you are merely seekimg clarification on the origin of the quote the answer is muddied.

http://www.trademarkia.com/kressmann...-76090025.html

http://www.trademarkia.com/kressmann...-75696315.html

https://trademarks.justia.com/760/90...-76090025.html
OK, this is some worthy info, and I commend J.Wraith for this.
Mr. Stephen Cook was, very aware of what WAF now calls "SS Cultural" items years before Lumsden and I foolishly brought this stuff up on WAF and more importantly, Mr.Cook knew the esoteric SS ideological themes before WAF brought it up.

It was WAF that alerted the ethically challenged on what to fake that looked SS cultural...


Final note : when the book came out ,I got a advert for the book in the mail (and the only way he got my address was from a Northern European Pagan organization I was following at the time....suffice it to say that this pagan group was working on Allach like plates(not to fool-but for the modern paganVolksgenossen) at this exact same time.
So I posit this Irminsul bedecked Allach lite plate is from this pagan group in conjunction with Cook...as such it would have been offered on their long defunct web site (all based in USA back then too)

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Old 11-20-2015, 12:36 AM   #33
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OK, this is some worthy info, and I commend J.Wraith for this.
Mr. Stephen Cook was, very aware of what WAF now calls "SS Cultural" items years before Lumsden and I foolishly brought this stuff up on WAF and more importantly, Mr.Cook knew the esoteric SS ideological themes before WAF brought it up.

It was WAF that alerted the ethically challenged on what to fake that looked SS cultural...


Final note : when the book came out ,I got a advert for the book in the mail (and the only way he got my address was from a Northern European Pagan organization I was following at the time....suffice it to say that this pagan group was working on Allach like plates(not to fool-but for the modern paganVolksgenossen) at this exact same time.
So I posit this Irminsul bedecked Allach lite plate is from this pagan group in conjunction with Cook...as such it would have been offered on their long defunct web site (all based in USA back then too)
I met him a couple times and he is pretty much entrenched in the culture best I can tell. It's one plate with his own hallmark, guess its a watch and wait and it could be a 20 year old fluke already. Anyone can be reached and its a small world.

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Old 11-20-2015, 10:44 AM   #34
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You can also similar tree of life pattern fabrics on Hitler's terrace chairs, 44 seconds into this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I22AGvtvnc

The chairs look like they are the sun terrace chairs at the Kehlsteinhaus, see soldier sat on one, minus the soft furninshings. Image copyright http://www.ibiblio.org/cizewski/feli...steinhaus.html
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:50 AM   #35
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note the bird pattern on this cloth, which is also found on more common tapestries , but different from what had been published by DHW .
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:50 PM   #36
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Interesting to see one more plate from that known maker of which I have had two different ones so far - Steve also has or had at least another plate of the same maker.
That Ahnherr - Enkel dedication originates from an official and public speech of Himmler in 1937.
Seems to be an interesting and very rare type of wood being used for yours, would be interesting to see a close-up of that producer´s tag.
What's also interesting is the fact that the maker, despite being heavily NS oriented, managed to survive past 1945 as is evident from this DM price tag.
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Old 12-17-2015, 12:13 AM   #37
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A little something for the Holiday Season. The Engel as seen in the blue cover DHW catalog.
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A little something for the Holiday Season. The Engel as seen in the blue cover DHW catalog.


Weren't these "Engeln" made over a longer time? If my memory serves me right i seem to recall several of these are/were pictured in magazines from before AND after the war.
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Weren't these "Engeln" made over a longer time? If my memory serves me right i seem to recall several of these are/were pictured in magazines from before AND after the war.
You are 100% correct However, I didn't post any of these " Engeln" , but a particular one.
Take a good look at the image bellow and tell me what you see.
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Weren't these "Engeln" made over a longer time? If my memory serves me right i seem to recall several of these are/were pictured in magazines from before AND after the war.
Further for your information, this particular type of Engel was produced by Richard Langer and his family in the 30's and 40's . Another specimen of this kind can be viewed @
Museum für Sächsische Volkskunst in Dresden.
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One more for the Holidays
now in color
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:42 PM   #43
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HI,

I will have to get back to you as i dont have my books/magazines at hand. I think i might know where they are pictured in (what i remember), it's interesting t see this one.

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One unexpected image from an official NS publication. Also note the spiral plate on the far right.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:46 PM   #45
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here is a similar one with spiral I picked up recently .
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