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Old 02-04-2015, 03:52 AM   #1
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Hi guys, these were given to me. Are they any good, if yes what are they worth? Thanks





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Old 02-04-2015, 04:50 PM   #2
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I can't tell for the jump wings.
The four identical ones might have been be originals, but are now in very poor shape. The enamel has disappeared and been recently replaced by cheap paint. This also seems to be the case for the bottom left and bottom right ones.
The second and third badges on the last row are copies.
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Old 02-04-2015, 07:46 PM   #3
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Could you post more pictures?

It looks like they might all be sandcast based on the French originals?
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:45 AM   #4
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Hi guys, thanks for your inputs. I have posted image of the reverse. And any idea how much might this small lot be worth? thanks

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:58 PM   #5
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The Vietnamese made these badges often to replace a badge that the soldier lost. So these were made as REPLACEMENTS BADGES. They were sand caste and some were done very well. The Vietnamese did not use enamel but used paint to color the area where you would normally find enamel. The typical fastener was the round plain bolero.

Replacement badges has value but not to the extent of real badges, as can be expected.
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The Vietnamese made these badges often to replace a badge that the soldier lost. So these were made as REPLACEMENTS BADGES. They were sand caste and some were done very well. The Vietnamese did not use enamel but used paint to color the area where you would normally find enamel. The typical fastener was the round plain bolero.

Replacement badges has value but not to the extent of real badges, as can be expected.
Do you have any thoughts on identifying a period original sand recast versus a 'copy'?
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Here's an original 5 BMEO



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Old 02-08-2015, 02:29 PM   #8
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There is no problem with your badge, it is a early Rue Baranger addressed badge.

In reference to your question re: period made replacement badges, for sure it is difficult to explain how you may tell one that was made over 60 years ago and ones that were made it Vietnam 2 months ago. It is by looking and handling them over time.

One way would be to find reputable French Badge dealers and see what they have for sale referenced to "in country made pieces". You will have to save pictures and then put them together as composite pictures of the fronts and backs. Over time you will be able to develop a pattern of seeing things. Then after you pick up a few pieces and handle them it would help to identify.

Consider this fact, the fakers of today are not going to fake badges that do not have a high value to them, there after your money so they will be casting airborne, foreign legion or commando badges, That is what I have seen.

Some reputable dealers are Napoleon, Lavocat, and Grandspins. Our French connection may have more to add.
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There is no problem with your badge, it is a early Rue Baranger addressed badge.

In reference to your question re: period made replacement badges, for sure it is difficult to explain how you may tell one that was made over 60 years ago and ones that were made it Vietnam 2 months ago. It is by looking and handling them over time.

One way would be to find reputable French Badge dealers and see what they have for sale referenced to "in country made pieces". You will have to save pictures and then put them together as composite pictures of the fronts and backs. Over time you will be able to develop a pattern of seeing things. Then after you pick up a few pieces and handle them it would help to identify.

Consider this fact, the fakers of today are not going to fake badges that do not have a high value to them, there after your money so they will be casting airborne, foreign legion or commando badges, That is what I have seen.

Some reputable dealers are Napoleon, Lavocat, and Grandspins. Our French connection may have more to add.
Thanks - the sandcast pieces have always been the toughest area for me so I'm always curious to get the thoughts of other collectors.

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