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Old 01-06-2020, 02:23 PM   #16
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Terry,

I think we're referring to the tang that's inside of the grip.
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Old 01-06-2020, 02:24 PM   #17
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Thanks,but i said the inner part of the blade-part in grip!
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Old 01-06-2020, 06:01 PM   #18
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This was the Hammesfahr Fürth example I was remembering, pics were from GD >15 years ago.


From memory I thought maybe the blade could have been recycled but I'm thinking the GD example was probably too far gone. But they both seem to have some issue with the maker mark in roughly the same spot.
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Old 01-06-2020, 06:02 PM   #19
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Just as a final thing......to sum up from what I can understand.
1) The handle is a replacement
2) The eagle on the handle is a later replacement, probably post War.
3) The roundel is a later replacement
4) The blade appears to have been rubbed back a bit to take out pitting
5) The blade is definitely acid etched. This particular etching appears to be the Ist Type.
6) The jury is out at the moment about WHEN the blade was etched. Although the daggers were etched by Hammerfahr after the blade was made this could possibly have been etched POST War
7) The crossguard appears to be nickel.....(instead of what?)
8) The crossguard has no district stamp on it
9) Scabbard appears period and OK
Final question......would a dagger like this have any reasonable value if it were to be bought........as I know other genuine 'Hammesfahr Fuerth' daggers fetch significant amounts. Or, is this particular dagger totally not worth acquiring for any amount?
Thats about it, thanks for all your help folks,
Look forward to any more help you can give me regarding the above........this all just proves to me what a mine field this whole area of collecting higher end NSDAP items is especially when it comes to daggers but the knowledge IS WORTH knowing when temptation comes along!
Have a great day,
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:03 AM   #21
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Just as a final thing......to sum up from what I can understand.
Final question......would a dagger like this have any reasonable value if it were to be bought........as I know other genuine 'Hammesfahr Fuerth' daggers fetch significant amounts. Or, is this particular dagger totally not worth acquiring for any amount?

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Terry,
This sled will never be what you want it to be.

It's nothing but trouble for the honest guy but perhaps a opportunity for a fraudster for a updated more advanced fake then it already is.

Nothing but grief here.
Best action IMO, is to forget it and move on.

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Old 01-08-2020, 01:36 PM   #22
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Nothing but grief here.
Best action IMO, is to forget it and move on.
I would agree with Serge. There are questions that will forever remain unanswered & it may always trouble you. And when it comes time to sell, headaches. Sportschule Fürth daggers are uncommon and similarly not cheap but paying more for peace of mind is a better plan IMO.
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:30 PM   #23
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