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Old 12-07-2018, 05:37 AM   #1
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Was needing some help with this kreisleiter armband
Looks short in length?
It looks ok to me but would like some opinions please

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Old 12-07-2018, 09:51 AM   #2
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Hi Mike,

The brassard you show appears original to the period (1939-45) to me, though it is that of an Ortsgruppenleiter, not of a Kreisleiter. Armbands were provided in a long length, with the intention that they would be tailored to fit the wearer -- the example in my collection is 19 1/2 inches long, with unfinished ends. The piece you show appears to have finished ends, which would mean that it had been cut to the required size and then finished by the tailor for wear.

Hope this is helpful...you have a nice artifact.

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Old 12-07-2018, 09:55 AM   #3
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Hi Mike,

The brassard you show appears original to the period (1939-45) to me, though it is that of an Ortsgruppenleiter, not of a Kreisleiter. Armbands were provided in a long length, with the intention that they would be tailored to fit the wearer -- the example in my collection is 19 1/2 inches long, with unfinished ends. The piece you show appears to have finished ends, which would mean that it had been cut to the required size and then finished by the tailor for wear.

Hope this is helpful...you have a nice artifact.

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Old 12-07-2018, 10:16 AM   #4
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Thanks Mr. James
very helpful

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Old 12-07-2018, 02:08 PM   #5
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Yep ime liking it .
Didn't these have a directional arrow to the rear to indicate to the wearer what way up.
So the wreath was worn only one way up.
Seem to remember mine had it ,don't have it any longer.
Beautiful piece. .
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Old 12-07-2018, 03:41 PM   #6
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Hi Pete,

Yes, many of these brassards produced under the PL Uniform Code Revision of 1939 were manufactured with directions for a tailor indicating how to correctly mount the armband to the garment sleeve. Previous editions of the PL brassard had no need of such directions since the obverse of the armband looked the same, regardless of how it was mounted to the sleeve. But with the advent of rows of oakleaves incorporated into the design of the obverse, additional tailor's information was needed. (These armbands were intended to show the row(s) of oakleaves running from left to right, with the stem end of each oakleaf to its left and the tip end of each leaf to its right.) Many PL armbands were provided with an arrow stamped in white ink toward one end of the long length of the material, indicating "up," while others used the RZM tag or coded words/numbers to indicate which was the "top" of the armband. If the tag or the words/numbers could be directly read, then that was the way the armband was supposed to be mounted to the sleeve. Stamped arrows or even the RZM tag were often cut off by the tailor in order to mount the armband to the sleeve correctly, but once it was mounted, it would not be removed again.

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Old 12-07-2018, 06:47 PM   #7
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Br James .
Thanks for the additional information .
Very nice info ,its great to learn.
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Old 12-08-2018, 09:58 AM   #8
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Thanks, Pete! I learn so much here on WAF from you and all of our colleagues. What a wealth of information and experience we see here!!

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