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So much rusted ground-dug junk on German Ebay these days
Old 07-11-2017, 08:56 PM   #1
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Default So much rusted ground-dug junk on German Ebay these days

Looks like a large percentage of German Ebay WWII technology items are rusted ground-dug junk. Really bad condition, deteriorated. Is there a market for this? Hard to believe.
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:02 AM   #2
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Diggers are working hard in the Eastern Front. There are many rare items that surface there. Due to scarcity of some, yes there is a market for those "some" if the price is reasonable...depending on state also, of course. I prefer pristine items, but if they cannot be found, ground dug are good to study till a nice one comes along.


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http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=918954

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Old 07-12-2017, 01:30 AM   #3
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In the past I have used many ground dug items for vehicle restorations, either to restore or to use as a pattern. Some radio Zubehör can only be found as relics. For me the objects have to be restorable to a functional status, so they have to be complete and corrosion has to be limited.

As for radio parts, they have never been a viable option, electronics do not survive in the ground for very long and the alloys used in many radio parts have a tendency to dissolve.

Although from time to time something useful pops up, the current trend is for the finds to become increasingly insignifiant and unusable. I would agree that looking at Ebay today, the majority is just junk beyond any use.

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Old 07-12-2017, 11:10 AM   #4
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That "junk" is often a treasure for vehicle restorers. Most WH vehicles today lack all the military accessories, racks, clamps, etc because they were demilitarized post war and nobody preserved such items. That Russian dump "junk" is just that kind of material, which was until some years ago only possible to find as repro. For example, a real saddle bag frame for any WH bike or an original Mauser clamp were items very difficult to find 20 years ago. Now thanks to that Russian diggers such parts can be found in original, and in most cases after a sand blasting they can be perfectly used again. Even more: the traces of pitting are most welcome by many (as me) as they prove the originality of the part.

Of course, for radio collectors the panorama is different. As Funksammler well said, electronics do not survive in the ground.
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:31 AM   #5
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OK, OK. Sorry to use the word "junk". I've bought some of that junk myself from time to time. I definitely prefer good condition stuff. But I get the importance of these things. Just hard to believe this is now in the area of archeology, with not so many years that have passed.
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I guess we all prefer items in nice condition. Most of this equipment was sold to third parties. If not in workable state they would be scrapped after the war, or years later, when considered obsolete. It is a pitty they didn't keep it all for collectors but many went to private hands as surplus and slowly moved to collector's hands.
I believe two tank divisions, of the former CZ army, were formed by Panters, which were smelted in the 50's to produced brand new soviet T55s Many items were no worth for post war armies, and there was not so much collection either. Some years ago I could get MP40 mags by hundreds...and now they are very difficult to find in a reasonable condition (and price)Now, when these items are really scarce and there is a source...money machine starts working. Better relics than nothing


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Here a ground dug "junk" part Funksammler would love to get I assume (if cheaper)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/362035624290?ul_noapp=true
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Yea...that is the problem. Most times they try to sell ground found items at top prices. It takes me ages to wait till these prices come down. If only surface rust, easy to restore...but most frequently they are badly pitted.


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i noticed that postal costs are in certain cases exagerated
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Hi,
It's not all junk.
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What are we looking at?
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Here a ground dug "junk" part Funksammler would love to get I assume (if cheaper)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/362035624290?ul_noapp=true
Fortunately I am complete on these cases! Besides, I have seen better quality (non-ground dug) examples for similar prices. What is interesting about this particular find is the way the paint has been applied, you can clearly see the factory grey paint and two different shades of tan paint. They did not bother to repaint the inner surfaces (between the box and the A-post). I guess it is better than this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Werkzeug-Kas...3D362035624290

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It's not all junk.
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What are we looking at?

Artillery parts?


http://wehrmacht-awards.com/Forums/s...d.php?t=693800

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What are we looking at?

Hi,
It's not a 37mm it's a SPzB 41 airborne version.
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It's not a 37mm it's a SPzB 41 airborne version.
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Aaah! That's it. I couldn't find what piece it was but for sure small arty parts.

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