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Heer officer rank tabs for review - opinions welcome!
Old 04-16-2018, 12:45 PM   #1
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Default Heer officer rank tabs for review - opinions welcome!

Here are two sets of Heer tabs that I recently bought off the E-Stand:

The green set was sold as a Jager/Gebirgsjager (Light Infantry/Mountain Infantry) but the thread is much darker than I expected. Maybe an "Officials" set instead?

The Artillery set looks good from the front, but doesn't have a buckram backer. Maybe unfinished, or is there something wrong here? The thread is very shiny, and there are two lateral pipes that make up the branch color, as opposed to the normal crosshatch pattern.

As always, thanks for looking!
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:05 PM   #2
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The medium green for Jaeger/ Geb. looks correct.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:14 PM   #3
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Weird,

Both of these charts show Jag/Ger. as "light green" and armored infantry as medium green.


http://www.alanhamby.com/ranks/rank.htm

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/unif...oards/Rank.htm

I know there's a variance in color runs of thread, but that is definitely not "light green" on my tabs.

Are the charts backwards?

Edit: I just saw a tab on LST that is listed as "Sonderfuhrer" (Specialist Leader or non-military-tasked personell) that has the exact same color green thread.

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Old 04-16-2018, 02:09 PM   #4
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Everything is correct, the first buttonhole is an officer the Gebirgsjager of division, the Jager of divisions, ski-jager divisions. And light green color is panzer-grenader or easy infantry till 1940.
Collar tabs of artillery have no strengthening linings as are possibly preparations of tabs. Such collar tabs sometimes come across.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:24 PM   #5
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Can you recommend a reference book or site that illustrates the differences in patterns on these tabs? I didn't know that the colors changed in 1940.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:49 PM   #6
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Colors didn't change, just at easy infantry in 1940 have cancelled green color to a waffenfarbe.
And the good chart in the flowers is given in the book of Angolia / Schlicht on a uniform of Wehrmacht
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:48 PM   #7
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Unfortunately the German term "hellgruen", literally "light green", is misleading in that the actual color (on your collar tabs) is really a darker green. There was a lighter green used for armored infantry and other troops as well as a slightly darker green which was the admin officials' base color. Each of these greens has some variation and the green question is an often discussed topic. Your tabs are fine for what you bought them to be.
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Each of these greens has some variation and the green question is an often discussed topic.
Yes, the good old "Fifty shades of green" discussion.

The Heeresverwaltung threw future collectors a curve ball when they picked the name Hellgruen, since it's not really a "light" green at all and the Wiesengruen worn by Panzergrenadier, some Kradschuetzen battalions and some Schuetzen regiments is distinctly lighter in shade.
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Many thanks to all for their opinions and expertise!
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Yes, the good old "Fifty shades of green" discussion.

The Heeresverwaltung threw future collectors a curve ball when they picked the name Hellgruen, since it's not really a "light" green' at all and the Wiesengruen worn by Panzergrenadier, some Kradschuetzen battalions and some Schuetzen regiments is distinctly lighter in shade.
Actually that's incorrect. The waffenfarbe for the Wehrmachtbeamte-Heer was dunkelgrün.

Hellgrün was the nebenfarbe for Apotheker (Pharmacists)...




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You misunderstood me, good sir. I said they picked it. Not that they wore it. The army administration determined the names of the Waffenfarben. The HV as in the pencil-pushers writing the regulations.

Hellgruen was the Waffenfarbe for Jaeger/Gebirgsjaeger, and as you pointed out, the secondary color for Pharmacists.
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You misunderstood me, good sir. I said they picked it. Not that they wore it. The army administration determined the names of the Waffenfarben. The HV as in the pencil-pushers writing the regulations.

Hellgruen was the Waffenfarbe for Jaeger/Gebirgsjaeger, and as you pointed out, the secondary color for Pharmacists.
Ahhh seen.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.



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Weird,

Both of these charts show Jag/Ger. as "light green" and armored infantry as medium green.


http://www.alanhamby.com/ranks/rank.htm

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/unif...oards/Rank.htm

I know there's a variance in color runs of thread, but that is definitely not "light green" on my tabs.

Are the charts backwards?

Edit: I just saw a tab on LST that is listed as "Sonderfuhrer" (Specialist Leader or non-military-tasked personell) that has the exact same color green thread.

Here is a great thread on the subject of green Waffenfarbe:http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=McGuirk
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Ahhh seen.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.



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