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Straight from a battlefield of the Gothic Line
Old 08-24-2018, 09:28 AM   #1
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Default Straight from a battlefield of the Gothic Line

Hello, some days ago I found a couple of interesting pieces in an area where the infantrymen of the 91st US Infantry Division faced the german soldiers of the 4th Fallschirmjaeger Division. The combat took place around 25th or 26th September 1944. Many men died that day.

The first find was this nice Lw collar device. Not easy to find in this area as most of the soldiers were still using tropical uniforms at that time.
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However, the rare bird was not that gull, but an eagle!

The last picture shows the pin badge after cleaning.
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The badge is in no way from a Fallschirmjaeger unit.
It's from the Nacht - Jagd - Geschwader 3, so a night fighter unit!

I'm not surprised of this find. Late in the war most of the men belonging to the paratrooper divisions had been transfered from other units, where they were no more necessary.
They were often highly specialized technicians that had no combat experience at all and that had probably seen a rifle only at the training camp.

Here are a couple of pages from a Soldbuch of another 4.FJD member. In this case, the man was transfered from the Geschwader "Horst Wessel". He was even entitled to wear the unit cuff title!
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:12 PM   #4
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Amazing! How could you find something as small as a collar tabs gull? Very cool...
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great finds,
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Nice finds!
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Amazing! How could you find something as small as a collar tabs gull? Very cool...
Thanks!
It was a case. I went there digging many other times before. The terrain is very bad, with many stones and minerals, iron fragments from bombs, barbed wire... So there are many false signals from the metal detector. In the years I was able to find something here and there (mostly cartridges, but also small equipment buckles and leather straps parts, an Mp40 bolt) but searching the area was always a mess. This time I was even hurry, had only one hour, but found the right place; just a square meter that had not been searched before
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Collar gulls are big enough to give a good metal detector signal. So are crumpled aluminum chewing gum wrappers....

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After weeks this Sunday I managed to go digging for a couple of hours. I was really happy to dedicate some time to our hobby after days of hard work, and I felt even more happy for what I've found later
Now it's very warm here in Italy: Last week in Florence the temperature reached 40°C (104° F). Fortunately, on the mountains of the Gothic Line temperature is much lower specially early in the morning, so I chose a place at a height of 1000 metres and left home at 6 AM.
After the usual bullets and splinters, here's what I've found...
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At home, after a rough clean
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And then, after a better clean...
Conditions for a dug thing is still pretty good. There is even some original black finish left!
Now, I'm sure that most of you have already identified this dirty piece of rust.
However, for whom may have some doubts, it's a part of a FG 42/I


The second pic is taken from Claus Espeholt's Website
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The serial number is still legible, and in my opinion amazing: 9 !!!
This weekend I'll go back to the place, hoping for some other nice finds. Not expecting too much, as only small parts here and there are left. But you never know, maybe I can find another piece from the same gun
However, I've just bought a better search coil for my metal detector
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Congratulations, really outstanding, and a great addition for your display cases !
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Very cool discovery! Who would have guessed? Good luck in finding the missing pieces....
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Fascinating finds, well done ! Hope you find much more.
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