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Al Valore di Marina to U-Boat Kapt Guggenberger
Old 10-15-2019, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default Al Valore di Marina to U-Boat Kapt Guggenberger

I was wondering if I might get some thoughts on an Al Valore di Marina recently acquired? I attach a couple of photos of the medal.
Friederich Guggenberger we know a lot about, and I know for certain he was awarded both Silver and Bronze AVMs by the Italian regime for services in the Med (sinking the Ark Royal) However, this particular example is a mystery to me, as it appears to not be an Italian made example, judging from the "800" mark and the small makers mark, which, from it's distinctive lozenge shape, could be that of Karl Hohmann of Pforzheim.
The wreath on the obverse differs from the Italian model too, and the engraving is cute but crude.Interestingly, it has his rank (Captain) in Italian ..TDV = Tenente di vasello".
Bearing in mind Guggenberger was sunk by the US in 1943, I suspect his original medals might be at the bottom of the Atlantic. And once captured (and escaped twice) he was not released til 1946.
It would seem a lot of effort to me, to fake a medal like this on an odd disc with comparatively crude naming, bearing in mind there are plenty of unnamed "FG" Italian issues out there to spuriously name up if one was so inclined...!
Any thoughts or advice appreciated and don't hold back!
many thanks
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:58 PM   #2
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Hi Roy,

sorry I cannot help on this medal,i know nothing about this area of collecting.
However, there is an Italian and European Axis Allies Forum.
You might want to post this there also.

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