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Oldenburg non-combatant Cross 2nd Class opinions please
Old 09-10-2017, 07:24 AM   #1
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Default Oldenburg non-combatant Cross 2nd Class opinions please

Recently purchased this cross and not convinced it is original. Compared to my combatant award, details are not the same. A thick coat of paint was applied when manufactured. Ribbon construction is not the same. Award is made of brass. Seller has a reference book indicating buntmetall is an accepted material.
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Old 09-10-2017, 07:44 AM   #2
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I'm not sure about the cross, but such a thick layer of paint, which partly filled the round of 9, is never seen on originals. Sloppy made, shining-new brass ring is not original, and ribbon is very suspicious too IMHO. I would return this piece to the seller.
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Old 09-10-2017, 07:47 AM   #3
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I agree. Looks more like a post 45 manufacture.
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:07 AM   #4
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The details seem way too sloppy with along the weird paint.

These were usually made of Iron (I think I've seen a few legitimate brass examples).
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Old 09-10-2017, 10:19 AM   #5
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I agree. Looks more like a post 45 manufacture.
Not just post-45, but brand new. There are quite a few of the Imperial state merit crosses, similar in quality to this that have started turning up on the market.
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Not just post-45, but brand new. There are quite a few of the Imperial state merit crosses, similar in quality to this that have started turning up on the market.
I don't know if an database of all the originals exist, but if not, one should be made.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:06 PM   #7
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A data base would be helpful. I noticed my example in question has a pillow effect inside the arms of the cross. The surface slightly rises from the outer edge of the medal to the center of the arm. All other examples I have seen are flat all the way across.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:51 PM   #8
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There are lots of variations to this cross, this type is not a known original one.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:53 PM   #9
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Awarded originals were of blackened iron, late war also of blackened white metal (zinc alloy). Brass made crosses are rather private purchased second pieces or replacements.

2nd class on non-combatant ribbon was awarded only 1654 times (while combatnat version about 55.000)

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Old 09-11-2017, 08:59 AM   #10
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