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Real or fake Waffen SS Totenkopf Wehrpass
Old 05-21-2020, 07:03 AM   #1
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As a new member, I am asking everyone's opinion on this SS Wehrpass. After reading many comments about fake documents listing KL Gross Rosen and Flossenberg, I am nervous this is a fake. Any help is appreciated.
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Old 05-21-2020, 03:22 PM   #2
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Hello, this is an original military pass, but it was probably stolen from a Czech archive at some point.
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Old 05-21-2020, 09:40 PM   #3
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Hello, this is an original military pass, but it was probably stolen from a Czech archive at some point.
Honest question, is there any further info on that? Would be interesting to read.

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Old 05-21-2020, 11:16 PM   #4
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Block 10, Schooling.
  • None. Illiterate
Block 11, Foreign Languages.
  • Rum = Romanian
  • Ung = Hungarian
I do not know what the abbreviation "i.W." means; can't find it in the German Military Abbreviations handbook, nor online.


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Old 05-21-2020, 11:38 PM   #5
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I think " i. W. " means "in Worten" (i.(n) W.(orten).

He can only speak the two languages, not write as he is "Analphabe" .

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Old 05-22-2020, 12:34 AM   #6
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Hello, this is an original military pass, but it was probably stolen from a Czech archive at some point.
Not stolen but saved as archives had to be destroyed when the wall came down in the late 80's : so many WW2 archives were destroyed in all the east block countries !
In the Berlin DDR area , a german employee saved so many interesting SB and WP from the destruction : WSS , FJ , RK wearers , HG panzer ...
This WP is 100% original and untouched .
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Here are lots of other examples in the Czech Archives:

http://www.vuapraha.cz/node/119
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I think " i. W. " means "in Worten" (i.(n) W.(orten).

He can only speak the two languages, not write as he is "Analphabe" .

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Gerdan, that makes sense; thanks!


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Old 05-23-2020, 12:19 AM   #9
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Thank you very much, everyone! Your replies are greatly appreciated!!!
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:10 PM   #10
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Not stolen but saved as archives had to be destroyed when the wall came down in the late 80's : so many WW2 archives were destroyed in all the east block countries !
In the Berlin DDR area , a german employee saved so many interesting SB and WP from the destruction : WSS , FJ , RK wearers , HG panzer ...
This WP is 100% original and untouched .
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well Sir i disagree ,a lot was stolen in criminal way ,well know fact.even one dealer from Hamburg has done that ,may you tell me abaut any archiv you know wich was destroyed? in east or west .
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well Sir i disagree ,a lot was stolen in criminal way ,well know fact.even one dealer from Hamburg has done that ,may you tell me abaut any archiv you know wich was destroyed? in east or west .
I'm talking about only the east side archives destructions , not the west side .
In 1989/90 east Berlin Stasi Archives destroyed : it's a fact . We all know the communist period Archives saved and restored later but the destroying of stored WW2 Artifacts is not so well known .
It has been a well known source for european/german collectors at this time .
Same for the czech source .
Criminal way : do you want to talk about the US Army Archives of the Nuremberg trial stolen in Germany and sold on the european market in the 80's ?
A typical example …
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I'm talking about only the east side archives destructions , not the west side .
In 1989/90 east Berlin Stasi Archives destroyed : it's a fact . We all know the communist period Archives saved and restored later but the destroying of stored WW2 Artifacts is not so well known .
It has been a well known source for european/german collectors at this time .
Same for the czech source .
Criminal way : do you want to talk about the US Army Archives of the Nuremberg trial stolen in Germany and sold on the european market in the 80's ?
A typical example …
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80"s are not my collector time ,but 90"s yes i remember a guy from Czech in late 90"s on a show in Berlin Alexanderplatz near TV tower ,he has a bana box of all what you want ,from Prague archiv ,complet WSS documents sets,he even told me after two beers how he get them i meet him later in bar after i bought sahariana tropical tunic for 200 DM
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