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Old 01-13-2005, 09:59 AM   #1
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Default Macv-sog Beer Can Help Needed

I just purchased this beer can from Bill Brooks. He says it is an eary generic MACV-SOG Beer Can. Jason Hardy thinks it may be Nung Security Force attached to SOG.
Has anyone any more specific info on this can? It came out of the Clem Kelly Collection.
Thanks much,
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:02 AM   #2
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:23 AM   #3
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Chris,
I don't think that army pin will hold ANY beer.

OK, I think the Nung association MIGHT be more accurate, but it is tough to say. Bobb Chatt may be a better one to answer.
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:38 AM   #4
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Well, the birthday boy is back.
Yeah, it's a cool pin, but the beer runs off the sides.
Allan, do you know what any of the crests are on the left side? One looks like the SEAL Trident, and one is maybe Army Aviation. I looked under a 10x loupe, but couldn't make them out.
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:53 AM   #5
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Cecil Smyth has this listed as an "unofficial D.I." along with the more common MACV-SOG emblems, so I would say Bill is right-- it's an early generic SOG D.I.
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Old 01-13-2005, 11:01 AM   #6
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Thanks Andy. That's great. I need to get with you about the RT Washington next!
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Old 01-13-2005, 11:26 AM   #7
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Chris;
Suggest you send this info(w. photo attachment)to the webMeister at SF TEAMHOUSE.
I can't remember his name offhand but he's helpful and could probably ask some of the ex.SOG guys...
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Thanks. I'll give 'em a try. Can I tell them you sent me over?
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It's ok by me.
I only know one ex-SOG guy,Vietnam( a former team sgt.) and would give you his name but think he's still "busy."
PM me if you are requesting bona fides...
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Allan, do you know what any of the crests are on the left side? One looks like the SEAL Trident, and one is maybe Army Aviation. I looked under a 10x loupe, but couldn't make them out.
Chris,
I am making a SWAG here, but the top design on the left reminds me of the South Vietnamese Engineer design, below that looks like a flying Bat, who is often seen with PRU insignia. I can only hazard a guess on the other images.
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Old 01-13-2005, 12:30 PM   #11
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Thanks Allan. I'll be sure to bring it to the next meeting.
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This beercan has long been considered an early SOG emblem and I recall seeing some separate substantiation for that (probably in Clem Kelly's Vietnam Insignia Collector's Newsletter). However, it wouldn't surprise me to see some other i.d. proven at some point. Anyway, here's a close-up of the emblems, which supposedly represented the associated service elements (Navy, Air Force, Army, Marines).
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Thanks much for all the help, guys.
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