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Old 10-27-2009, 05:33 PM   #46
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That was my first thought, but not completely sure. Mahalo for the information. Mike could you elaborate on the question of how the eagle faces?
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:37 PM   #47
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Dead stock made by An-Thành found late 2008, the eagle's head face left.


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Old 10-27-2009, 07:58 PM   #48
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Hi Dennis, how large is it for the top brass cap badge, is it for beret or visor cap. Thanks again for your posting.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:15 PM   #49
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The top patch is for the 3rd Marine Battalion, SOI BIEN, Sea Wolf

The bottom patches are for the 4th Marine Battalion, KINH-NGU Killer Fish

If you examine the patches closely you will see that the right insignia is a little taller. Also if you look at the white area of the right patch you will see a pattern in the weave.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:18 PM   #50
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This grouping of four patches is for the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Vietnamese Marine Battalions.

The patch identified as A. represents the 5th Marine Battalion, HAC LONG, Black Dragon.

Patch B. represents the 6th Vietnamese Marine Battalion THAN-UNG, Sacred Bird CAM-TU
Suicide.

The patch identified as C. represents the 7th Vietnamese Marine Battalion HUM XAM, Killer Tiger

Patch D. represents the 8th Vietnamese Battalion, O-BIEN, Sea Hawk

The Marine Division had three other maneuver battalions which no patches were made. These three battalions were formed late in the war were designated the 14th, 16th and 18th battalions.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:25 PM   #51
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The four patches shown on this page belong to the Vietnamese Marine Signal and Transportation Battalions. The first three are patches for the Signal Battalion, of special note is the second one which is hand embroidered. The bottom patch is for the Transportation Battalion.

All patches shown in this thread represent what the Vietnamese Marines and their Co Van’s would wear on their uniforms.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:32 PM   #52
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Dennis,

When the TD1ND (1st para batallion) was activatedon the 1st july 1951, it was partly created with the troopers of the 1st CIP. Actually, the 1st CIP became the 3rd Co of the TD1ND.
Sorry for this late answer, but here is my 2 cents!

This war cross citation awarded to a 3rd company / 1st BPVN vietnamese paratrooper for his bravery during an operation in the north of Tay Ninh (as a LMG gunner, he killed two VM and seized their equipment); displays the CIP insignia. The motto Continuité remember the roots of the unit.


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This paper work look fake to me. Wrong Viet language spelling and a lot of typo.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:50 PM   #54
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There is a insigne for the French 17th Commando Bn. from the First Indochina War, that I believe was used in the design of the 1st Vietnamese Marine Bn. patch. Could our French members shed some light on this question?
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Unfortunately, I could not link Cdo 17 and the 1st Marine Bn:
Cdo 17 belonged to Commandos Nord-VN. It was located in Xom Moï (in the west) and its AOR was Vinh Yen area. We 're very far from the coast!

Most of his european cadres came from the airborne forces, not from Navy commandos like the Commando 10!

Perhaps a former vietnamese member of the commando joined the VNMC?

That's my two cents

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This paper work look fake to me. Wrong Viet language spelling and a lot of typo.
According to two native vietnamese people, there's no problem in this citation. However, for them, it is written in a highly pompous style, far from the current vietnamese.
We could not be always sure at 100% of our items but where I found it and for the price I paid it...
I've seen a lot of fake military papers made in VN but warmocks are ridiculous: loaded with stamps (sometimes on highly desirable items like a jump book of a GCMA indigenous ) or with current fonts.

In order to not pollute Michael'thread, please send me a PM and explain me what is wrong on it.

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Old 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM   #56
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Sorry for this late answer, but here is my 2 cents!

This war cross citation awarded to a 3rd company / 1st BPVN vietnamese paratrooper for his bravery during an operation in the north of Tay Ninh (as a LMG gunner, he killed two VM and seized their equipment); displays the CIP insignia. The motto Continuité remember the roots of the unit.


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Valery, I believe your document is an original based only on the attached document. The typing of the document is very similar, is signed by the same person at about the same time from what I can see.

I will have to look for the original but from what I can see the two documents
are very similar. I tried to sharpen the image but was unsuccessful, you may have better success.

One other point to remember, military language (terminology) and the common language may differ in how it was presented. I would surmise that the document would have been written by a French Sgt. or officer and translated by a Vietnamese clerk.
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Old 11-15-2009, 12:31 PM   #57
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As requested, here are pictures of the beret and cover.
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