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Old 05-27-2019, 08:09 AM   #76
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Overhoff & Cie
Unmarked

As everybody knows, Overhoff was the largest maker of SS buckles since he was granted exclusive rights of production as soon as 1931. Most, if not all, so called "reference" books, including the two latest from Angolia and Nash, are still referring to the year of 1927. This is a total non sense! How could the SS motto been on a SS buckle when this motto was pronounced for the first time by Hitler in January 1931!

As we are going to see in the next posts, early SS buckles variants from Overhoff are plenty to fill a collector's dream!

I will start with an unmarked example. As far as I am concerned, I have referenced only one since I have evidence of only this one (for EM). This example belongs to Christian U. in Germany, who is currently working on his own book. Probably the best book on the subject when it will become available. Christian and I we do not believe this buckle (or its little sister for Officers) was unmarked on purpose. We think this was either the result of a lazy worker at the factory forgetting to stamp marking on it (most likely), or either that the marking was grounded off later like many other Overhoff's (less likely).
Anyways, here it is:
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Both pictures and buckle belong to Christian U. (Germany)
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:46 AM   #77
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Christian and I we do not believe this buckle (or its little sister for Officers) was unmarked on purpose. We think this was either the result of a lazy worker at the factory forgetting to stamp marking on it (most likely)
Here is another one attesting such lack of control at the Overhoff's firm. Unmarked to the front but ...

Both buckle and pictures belong - if I recall properly - to Raymond (USA)
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:49 AM   #78
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fully marked on the front!
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:21 AM   #79
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Overhoff & Cie
O&C Ges.gesch. DRGM

This is, I personally believe, the first marking used by Overhoff in 1931. Most "reference" books are saying this was the full motto but I do not agree (the date of 1927 was already a non sense). I rather tend to believe the full motto was the latest, not the first, before Overhoff stamped his SS buckles with RZM/SS markings.

Note the additional DRGM, not stamped but engraved as part of the male die, under the oak leaves crown.

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Old 06-06-2019, 09:40 AM   #80
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O&C Ges.gesch Type 1

Looking at the marking of the above buckle and reading my above comments it should not surprise anybody I named the following/this buckle as "Type 1"...

Pictures and buckle are mine. Buckle still available for sale.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:21 PM   #81
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Overhoff & Cie
O&C Ges.gesch Type 1

You should notice it is the same marking as above with the exception of DRGM. Still Capital G.
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:48 PM   #82
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Overhoff & Cie
O&C Ges.gesch Type 2

Type 2 has square fonts. Between Type 1 and Type 2 the latest is the hardest to find.

Pictures are still mine but buckle was sold to Harry K. in the Netherlands
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:25 PM   #83
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Overhoff & Cie
OVERHOFF & CIE / LÜDENSCHEID GES.GESCH.

This is the one called by some either "Full motto Overhoff", "Full name" or anything else with the same meaning. For the discriminating collector this marking exist in three main variants:
Centered, Left positioned and also grounded off. I am posting now the first two and will post the third one later as part as "Ground off Overrhoff's"

Please note reversed "&". We still do not know anything about it.

Pictures are still mine. Buckle was sold to Alessandro O. in Italy
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:35 PM   #84
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Buckle still available for sale
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Left positioned
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