wehrmacht awards


Go Back   Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums > Wehrmacht Uniforms and Equipment > Firearms Forum

Firearms Forum Focused on the guns of the Third Reich, but posts on firearms from other WW II countries are also welcomed.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

Swiss scope inquiry
Old 07-07-2017, 02:56 PM   #1
bodes
Member
 
bodes's Avatar
 
bodes is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,074
Default Swiss scope inquiry

Forum members, I came across a gentleman who has a Swiss scope made by Wild Heerbrugg....It's a 4x30 power and similar to the one shown here...Came with leather lens covers and leather carrying case.....It is numbered, but I don't know if that's a model or serial number.....Would it be a military or commercial scope?....I would assume military as it's reticle is similar to the ones the Germans used....Any information appreciated, including potential value....Bodes

  Reply With Quote

Old 07-11-2017, 12:54 AM   #2
Frank De Smedt
Member
 
Frank De Smedt is offline
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Flanders
Posts: 339
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodes View Post
Forum members, I came across a gentleman who has a Swiss scope made by Wild Heerbrugg....It's a 4x30 power and similar to the one shown here...Came with leather lens covers and leather carrying case.....It is numbered, but I don't know if that's a model or serial number.....Would it be a military or commercial scope?....I would assume military as it's reticle is similar to the ones the Germans used....Any information appreciated, including potential value....Bodes

My opinion it' s the scope for the K31 Nicaragua model.

frank
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-11-2017, 06:18 AM   #3
bodes
Member
 
bodes's Avatar
 
bodes is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,074
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank De Smedt View Post
My opinion it' s the scope for the K31 Nicaragua model.

frank
Thanks Frank, I've looked all over the internet and have basically found nothing on this scope.....The website for Wild-Heerbrugg has this same photo listed under military instruments.....I was assuming for Swiss military use, but sounds perhaps like commercial as well....Bodes

Btw...Curious as to whether or not their commercial scopes would have Switzerland or Swiss made on them?....Some of the products on their website are labled as such...mm
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-11-2017, 06:33 AM   #4
Frank De Smedt
Member
 
Frank De Smedt is offline
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Flanders
Posts: 339
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodes View Post
Thanks Frank, I've looked all over the internet and have basically found nothing on this scope.....The website for Wild-Heerbrugg has this same photo listed under military instruments.....I was assuming for Swiss military use, but sounds perhaps like commercial as well....Bodes

Btw...Curious as to whether or not their commercial scopes would have Switzerland or Swiss made on them?....Some of the products on their website are labled as such...mm
Bodes,

Have a look on Swissrifles.com. Møre info on their forum
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-11-2017, 06:43 AM   #5
bodes
Member
 
bodes's Avatar
 
bodes is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,074
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank De Smedt View Post
Bodes,

Have a look on Swissrifles.com. Møre info on their forum
Thanks a ton Frank, I googled Nicaruguan K31 and found one used by the Israelis...Same scope!...Again I appreciate the lead.....Bodes
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-11-2017, 06:53 AM   #6
Frank De Smedt
Member
 
Frank De Smedt is offline
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Flanders
Posts: 339
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodes View Post
Thanks a ton Frank, I googled Nicaruguan K31 and found one used by the Israelis...Same scope!...Again I appreciate the lead.....Bodes
I recently sold my Swiss colection 😟 But still have Some knowledge😀

Frank
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-13-2017, 08:31 AM   #7
Promo
Member
 
Promo is offline
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 132
Default

The Nicaraguan contract K.31 sniper rifles used Kahles H4/60 scopes, I have one of those rifles complete with scope.

The only Wild scope I am aware of is the one used on the IDF K98k sniper rifles which are based on FN made actions.

The one shown in your ad here appears to be of Hensoldt Dialytan pattern, so probably just a licensed scope, or even produced for Wild in Switzerland for the local market? Can you post pictures of your scope?
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-15-2017, 02:03 PM   #8
bodes
Member
 
bodes's Avatar
 
bodes is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,074
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo View Post
The Nicaraguan contract K.31 sniper rifles used Kahles H4/60 scopes, I have one of those rifles complete with scope.

The only Wild scope I am aware of is the one used on the IDF K98k sniper rifles which are based on FN made actions.

The one shown in your ad here appears to be of Hensoldt Dialytan pattern, so probably just a licensed scope, or even produced for Wild in Switzerland for the local market? Can you post pictures of your scope?
The one in the picture is 100% identical to my scope....Bodes

Here's a picture of what I believe is a Wild Heerbrugg scope on a K31...Albeit the scope/mount are on backwards...

  Reply With Quote

Old 07-15-2017, 06:21 PM   #9
Promo
Member
 
Promo is offline
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 132
Default

This scope is a Kahles H4/60, google that scope...
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-15-2017, 07:42 PM   #10
bodes
Member
 
bodes's Avatar
 
bodes is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,074
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo View Post
This scope is a Kahles H4/60, google that scope...
Could be, however the photo in the opening post is the exact one listed on the Wild Heerbrugg website (in Switzerland) under "military instruments"....Some optical items listed on that site are marked wth "Switzerland" or "Swiss made" under the company logo....Those I would tend to believe were for commercial sale....Bodes
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-17-2017, 03:47 AM   #11
Promo
Member
 
Promo is offline
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 132
Default

Pretty easy, the H4/60 scopes have a focal adjustment PLATE, while what you posted has a focal adjustment RING around the tube. Plus the H4/60 has the turret sitting on top of the tube, not having a turret base which is shaped to have a larger base on the scope tube.

You can compare it with pictures of my IDF mounted H4/60 here: https://snipercollection.com/2016/03/12/2003/

I would appreciate it if the original poster could supply pictures of what he had been offered?
  Reply With Quote

Old 07-17-2017, 07:18 AM   #12
bodes
Member
 
bodes's Avatar
 
bodes is offline
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,074
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo View Post
Pretty easy, the H4/60 scopes have a focal adjustment PLATE, while what you posted has a focal adjustment RING around the tube. Plus the H4/60 has the turret sitting on top of the tube, not having a turret base which is shaped to have a larger base on the scope tube.

You can compare it with pictures of my IDF mounted H4/60 here: https://snipercollection.com/2016/03/12/2003/

I would appreciate it if the original poster could supply pictures of what he had been offered?
Promo, Please reread my opening post....Scope is identical to the one in the first photo.....Is identical (actually exact same photo I posted) to the one shown on the Wild Heerbrugg website under military instruments....Also it's the only picture I've been able to find (on internet) concerning this scope....Hope this clarifies things......Bodes
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump






vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright Wehrmacht-Awards.com