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Old 11-30-2019, 07:21 AM   #1
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I found a most interesting estate of medal office ribbon lots
These are from an old medal man here in England and is great for me as I have always had an interest in them.
Looking at what is there I have been able to create a timeline on ribbon manufacturing

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Old 12-05-2019, 01:19 PM   #2
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Attracted interest
I do like this I’m not selling btw

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Old 12-05-2019, 01:36 PM   #3
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A few more
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:47 PM   #4
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Chay, I think that it looks better on the medals but it is always handy to have. My stocks are getting low but I now have some lovely medal groups. Nigel
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:48 PM   #5
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14 kg of ribbons
These in the box are 47 packets of 50 ribbons all cut to 15cm or 6 inch as issued I checked one pack because they were unbelievable and indeed there is 50 and the ribbon looks completely fresh like nothing seen before!
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:57 PM   #6
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I see you have a few nice ribbons there !
This toffee box is a time capsule ! There is over 250 ribbons of different type measurements 15 cm of longer
This collection made it possible to identify awarded ribbon and create a timeline on manufacturing which has always been of interest to me.
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:09 PM   #7
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Chay that is a very impressive collection of ribbons, I managed to get a lot in the eighties in Germany from the camp tailoress who still had WW2 ribbon, I also managed to get a pack of ten original WW1 MID's, they had ordered the wrong type so they did not want them, they are nearly all gone on my groups. Nigel
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Nice ,
This lot came from an old medal man in the south of England not far from London, there was no metal badges in the lot
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I must dig out the rest of these ribbons
This is a Newzealand silver war medal
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:09 AM   #10
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Nigel
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Do you mount medals like Spink? Or the modern massive ribbon way?
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:23 AM   #11
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Morning Chay, Spink is not an authority just a business, if you got your medals done by them today then they would be court mounted not swing mounted like your ones in the photo, although being a business I am sure that they would do them how you asked, I have worked closely with the military for 38 years 17 in uniform and I can tell you that the normal serviceman whether it be a jubilee medal or Military Cross winner usually only worries about how much the remounting will cost being minutures and full size. I am pretty sure that when they send them away they just ask to get them mounted.
I like to court mount my medals like the ones in the photo for display, I am only the collector/curator of these so for me I mount them how I think that they would look best and my emphasis is really on keeping the history together such as photo's and documentation.
I do prefer the original ribon but sometimes it is hard to obtain at reasonable costs, I do not like it when the ribbon drops lower than the medal and I do think that it is a waste then.
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Beautifully mounted Mc trio!
I do like in a way the modern way and more ribbon on show it is pleasing on the eye,

my point is the old way of mounting is shown how Spink did it in the photo I showed and each soldier was expected to wear the same way because they were given a 6” length of ribbon which is enough to mount on a medal bar and a bit left over for a ribbon bar.

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Thanks Chay, this was my second attempt the first time I mounted them slightly in between swival and court mounting, I am not an expert and it is very expensive to do a collection.
The Military way is to be conformable and all the same which in experience usually means that the highest rank sets the trend, this was like going on parade on a very cold Summers day you could not wear jumpers unless everyone had them, this can be complicated when you have two regiments sharing the same camp and the RSM's do not get on
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I understand the scenario!
It’s a new way of mounting medals and I suppose it’s not very infantry of the moment to have the medals bouncing around making an awful noise
Historically they did just hang by the ribbon

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Old 12-06-2019, 08:28 AM   #15
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I hope you have some plan to document the variations in manufacturing. Surely many of the medal nerd out there will be interested.

I assume the NZ War Medal ribbon is a 'first attempt', before the official woven one came out. Great ! I also recall, from the misty days when I still collected - 1980s-1990s - that British ribbons were getting ,more expensive and hard to find and many collectors were starting to use 'made in the East' versions which were close but often not quite spot on. Which always seemed a shame on lovely groups like your MC.
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