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Old 04-07-2018, 01:33 PM   #1
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Default Patronenkasten 41 with extra rivet

Maybe I never paid attention but I noticed it now. I have one steel box with extra rivet in the middle of top cover. Do You, good people, have any idea what is the purpose of this rivet?
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Old 04-07-2018, 02:18 PM   #2
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What does the inside look like?

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Old 04-07-2018, 02:58 PM   #3
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What does the inside look like?

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It looks like that. Whole inside painted only with red primer.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:34 PM   #4
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I have found picture of another Patronenkasten with extra rivet. It is also 1942 dated and dark green. The purpose of the rivet remain unknown.
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One box produced by brc and the other by bsj...so not a maker's variation. Curious that both were produced in 1942. I thought early PK41 were painted blue, till 1943...

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Old 05-13-2018, 01:26 PM   #6
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One mystery not solved and here comes another one. 30+ years in this hobby and still some things " I have never seen before". I have found ammo box - Patronenkasten with pressed spots on the corners. Sorry, no way to add pictures.
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:36 PM   #7
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Pictures.
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:37 PM   #8
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More pictures.
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Old 11-11-2018, 08:08 AM   #9
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The rivet is common in almost all Patronenkasten 41 produced in 1942 and at the beginning of 1943. Personally I cant find a reason for this rivet. Maybe this hole was made during the machining process, to fix the cover in a central position during stamping. Later of course it had to be closed to avoid water coming in.
Some people say that Waffenmeister boxes had this rivet, but as almost all early Patronenkasten 41 carry the and none later boxes I go with my first own theory.

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:13 AM   #10
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One mystery not solved and here comes another one. 30+ years in this hobby and still some things " I have never seen before". I have found ammo box - Patronenkasten with pressed spots on the corners. Sorry, no way to add pictures.
This is typical on some BZL manufactured ammo boxes in Austria during the war. A very clever system to build this boxes. I have a lot of these boxes, but I live long time in Austria, maybe they are more common here.
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The rivet is common in almost all Patronenkasten 41 produced in 1942 and at the beginning of 1943. Personally I cant find a reason for this rivet. Maybe this hole was made during the machining process, to fix the cover in a central position during stamping. Later of course it had to be closed to avoid water coming in.
Some people say that Waffenmeister boxes had this rivet, but as almost all early Patronenkasten 41 carry the and none later boxes I go with my first own theory.

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Thanks for Your comment Hauby. I think that it must have been kind of easy identification mark, like braille alphabet. When there is a dot, there is ammo inside the box. No dot, no ammo.
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All early Patronenkasten 41 have this rivet in 1941 and 1942, disappearing in 1943. The bzl Patronenkasten has been overpainted postwar.

The 1942 bsj is rare, thank you for showing.
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Extra rivet.
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Hi, interesting but I gues we will never know the reason for the extra rivet. I bought one of these boxes a few weeks ago, the dealer I bought it from also pointed out the extra rivet . 42 dated not sure about the makers letter code.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:03 AM   #14
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code is "wa"
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wa code.
Old 02-20-2019, 11:31 AM   #15
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Yes I can see that now. Thanks.
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