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Old 05-21-2016, 12:01 PM   #1
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Default C-100 generator

Uh-ooh, what did I do Bits everywhere!

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Old 05-21-2016, 12:05 PM   #2
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Bad, bad dog! No walk for a week!
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Old 05-21-2016, 12:24 PM   #3
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Generator seems to be:

Typ HNG 100/58
NV 12.5V, 8 Amp, 100W
HV 1000V, 0.3A, 300W
3000 u/min

Right?
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:44 PM   #4
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Generator seems to be:

Typ HNG 100/58
NV 12.5V, 8 Amp, 100W
HV 1000V, 0.3A, 300W
3000 u/min

Right?
Indeed, it was (...) the generator for the 100 W.S.

In any case, it gave me some good welding practise on thin sheet metal, the exhaust was full of holes! Since it is hidden in the base, nobody will be able to see my shoddy welding!

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Old 05-21-2016, 03:02 PM   #5
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In any case, it gave me some good welding practise on thin sheet metal, the exhaust was full of holes! Since it is hidden in the base, nobody will be able to see my shoddy welding!
Not bad at all. My skills in that area are way way more worse.
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:48 AM   #6
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I did manage to get it back together. The main problem was the ignition. At first I feared the magneto might be broken but fortunately it proved to be OK. It turned out that the lead between the magneto and contact point was shorting out (years of oil and heat had degraded the insulation between the lead and the metal shroud). Also the short lead between the cut-out button and contact points was just shorting out, I started with sparks and as soon as I tried to run the motor the vibrations caused it to short out. Very annoying fault and difficult to find! Even on the high voltage side all the connections need cleaning and it took a while to find a spark plug that worked, in the end I had to borrow one from the Horch!

The carburettor was full of gunk, so that was taken off, stripped and cleaned. Even so the motor was difficult to start, I resorted to pouring some petrol in the air filter, that seemed to do the trick....

Once I got it to run, blue smoke was pouring out in all directions from the base, at which point I knew I had to do something about the exhaust! So I dismantled to whole machine, welded and painted the exhaust and put it back together again. After that I encountered a problem with the pull-starter so that had to come apart and be cleaned before I finally could try the machine.

Well, it kind of works:


I still need to set up the speed regulator properly. If I set it up to start properly the machine does not run very well and if I set it up for the machine to work properly it is very difficult to start. Somewhere there must be a setting where it both starts and runs properly! Unfortunately at the end of the day my arms and hands were sore from trying to pull start the thing and I was getting a bit fed up. I need to look if I can use the generator to start it electrically like a GG400, that would save me some blisters!

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Old 05-22-2016, 12:06 PM   #7
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Funksammler, as far i know there was three different engine types - DKW /Autounion C1, C100 and KL 100, they were all very similar. However generators were different depending what voltage was required. Some even delivered AC - WG570a for example. It would be nice to generate a list of all known generators.

Those generators were commonly called as KL.M.S.C. - Wehrmacht Generator "Kleinmaschinensatz C"
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Old 05-22-2016, 12:51 PM   #8
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Here's my list so far. Hope to get info of their purposes - what for they were.
Any additional generator types or different ones from this list are welcome.

(This was for 100W.S)
Typ HNG 100/58
NV 12.5V, 8 Amp, 100W
HV 1000V, 0.3A, 300W
3000u/min

WG570a
220V ~
2.6A
570VA
3000u/min

LG800c
65V
12.3A
800W
3000u/min

LG650, also LG650/59
15V, 15A, 225W
50V, 6.5A, 325W
65V 10A 650W
3000u/min

One different LG800 - different voltage
17.5 V, 46A, 800W
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:17 PM   #9
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Nice one!

Just bougth one in Germany with this same generator
(Typ HNG 100/58
NV 12.5V, 8 Amp, 100W
HV 1000V, 0.3A, 300W
3000u/min)

The generator is in working condition, but I have to check everything before I start it.
Sadly there are also some missing parts/bolts/nuts.

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Old 09-06-2016, 04:57 PM   #10
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Nice! Show more pictures!

And take this for a reference

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=207096
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Old 09-07-2016, 11:43 AM   #11
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Some pictures:









The airfilter is full of steelwhool, don't know if that is necessary. It is running horrible with the airfilter on and perfect with it disassembled.
There are some missing bits, especially on the generator (nuts to attach it to the C1, dust covers, 1 screw of the top plate and the coupling disc to the attachement with the c1)
And off course the chest with all the accessories are missing.

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Old 10-05-2016, 04:51 AM   #12
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The C1 is finished, mine is working properly now. It had some missing gaskets in the carburetor and I remade those. Now it's starting and running like new.

Next challenge are my DKW GG400's, i have two, one will be restored to running condition and partially restored/repainted, I will start a new thread with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8QKpobbzeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-S_px2CJ-c

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Old 02-27-2018, 05:14 PM   #13
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Does this set go with the HNG 100?

http://www.tarnmilitaria.com/?product=20672
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Old 03-01-2018, 02:48 AM   #14
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I would say yes, but it's a mixed up set. The card on the far upper left is for the smaller GG400, you can see gaskets for the ignition system and the airfilterbox. The rest of the parts are for the C1/C100 generator and these parts are for both more or less the same (some parts are different because of the crank-starter, or the band-starter).
Parts for the generators/dynamo's themselves where supplied separately.

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