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Iron Cross 1. Class outer cardboard boxes from 1914 untill 1918
Old 02-13-2020, 08:58 AM   #1
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Default Iron Cross 1. Class outer cardboard boxes from 1914 untill 1918

Sorry, I placed it in the wrong thread. I thought its better to make a new thread, just about cardboardboxes!

I made an attempt to date the cardboard boxes. I hope the owners of the boxes forgive me that I used their pictures, but its for a good course, research for the public interest

It is not waterproof but just an indication for dating the awardboxes...a start!

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Old 02-13-2020, 01:07 PM   #2
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Red seal imprinted with KGL. Preuss. Generalordenskom. (Konigliche Preussiche gerneral ordens commission)

IMO this red seal is used untill 1916.

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Old 02-16-2020, 10:44 AM   #3
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Not even one reaction.......
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:10 PM   #4
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Hi Henk.
I would love to be able to contribute to this but I have never even seen a real
cardboard outer box in person yet alone owned one.

Except for the seals and the hand written award dates, the boxes look pretty much
the same to me. It is interesting that the seals seem to stop in 1916.
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Excellent research and great side by side comparison!
Thanks for the informative post.
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:06 PM   #6
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Thank you guys.....very much appreciate your comments
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:15 PM   #7
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Hi Henk,

I only see a real difference in the 1914 one vs the others where the positioning and the font size is different. Are there more subtle differences I fail to see?

Anyway, nice overview!

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Old 02-16-2020, 03:42 PM   #8
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Hello Michel,

This is the start of a little research. The award year on the box made it easy to put them on date/year. I also think there are no more subtle differences.
IMO the only differance is the seal untill 1916. IMO is the best information transfer is to visuelize this in this overview

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Thanks a lot Henk for precious info and for sharing.
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:29 PM   #10
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Wow, great post. Thanks for sharing
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I have a few of these cartons, and have always wondered how to date them, so very useful research.
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Here is my one and only, issued in 1917. The box has been reinforced at some time with paper tape.
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File Type: jpg boxed and cased EK1.jpg (61.8 KB, 132 views)
File Type: jpg EK1 box front.JPG (99.1 KB, 129 views)
File Type: jpg EK1 box rear.JPG (102.8 KB, 130 views)
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Here is an attempt to date the EK I award cases from 1914 -1918.
As most of you know, the first award case where in leather with gold-stamped, stylized EK on the lid, inside in white silk and violet velvet, from the production of Hofbuchbinder H. F. Schwartz, Berlin, who supplied the award case as GOK sole supplier until the end of 1916 in this high-quality version. The version next, around 1916-17 is IMO a sort of transition case, imitation leather and iron push button. After that, the black cases with the diamond motif appeared. This is my research..certainly not water proof. I would also like to hear other opinions

Award Case EK Class 1. 1914-1918 - kopie.jpg
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Another great job Henk; thanks a lot for precious info and for sharing.

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