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M16/M17 take or miss?
Old 06-16-2018, 02:22 PM   #1
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Hello friends! Please help. Want this helmet. Take or miss? Thanks!!
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:23 PM   #3
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:09 PM   #5
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Hello Angriff.

This helmet looks to be a nice model 1917 in a size 66 shell; split rivets look to be replaced. Liner, pads, and chinstrap all look original to me.
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Yes looks promissing.
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Old 06-16-2018, 04:43 PM   #7
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Its a M17 Austrian helmet looks good to me.
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:11 PM   #8
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As Ersatz mentioned... Austrian helmet. It is not a German M16, M17, or M18. So, if you're looking for a German helmet it would be a "miss".

Rarely does one find an authentic, complete, and un messed with WWI Austrian helmet this clean, so it needs a closer look. Following are a few red flags I would question:

1. The leather chinstrap. Austrian helmets were cloth.
2. The dome shaped liner pin heads
3. The liner pad with black stitching shows much less wear than the other two.
4. The drawstring in not original.

Who is the maker of this shell?

Maybe, reworked/reissued by another Country?

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Old 06-17-2018, 09:35 AM   #9
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2. The dome shaped liner pin heads
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Those pin heads would be my main concern. These seem to be replacements.
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Old 06-20-2018, 05:15 AM   #10
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M16 Austrian. Rivets are replaced. Drawstring is not original.
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