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Old 11-30-2003, 03:13 AM   #16
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Back with soldered disc:
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:21 AM   #17
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Not a real fake but often used as a "Spangenstück" is the Golden Military Merit Cross made by the german firm Göde as so called "Museumskopie". Watch out for any of them, they appear in ebay frequently! I even saw one at Weitzes website for sale as "Spangenstück"!!!

Here is one from ebay. Watch for the very long and strange screwed looking small ring/loop which is part of the cross!
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:22 AM   #18
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And the pics from Weitze. Same cheap Göde cross with the strange ring!
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:23 AM   #19
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:25 AM   #20
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And a third one now at ebay:
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Old 11-30-2003, 04:47 AM   #21
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I found this Waldorf card on which one can see the difference. Thanks for posting the fake pics. I didnt know that even the EK II is not safe anymore !
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Old 11-30-2003, 05:38 AM   #22
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Thanks for this pic. This is the awarded cross. There are "real" Spangenstücke but they all have a soldered small ring.
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Old 11-30-2003, 05:38 AM   #23
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Another early cast fake. Interestingly, it came on what appears to be a piece of early 1813 ribbon.
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Old 11-30-2003, 10:04 AM   #24
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Next one is the classic polish EK1 copy. It is one-piece and non-magnetic.
Hi Jens, I just bought one of these for 12 Euro to have an example. Ebay item #3252124868 . Its good to have this posted, I see lots of them being sold as originals on ebay Deutschland. Tony
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Old 12-01-2003, 03:55 AM   #25
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Here is a website which deals with reproductions of Imperial German medals:

http://yawp.com/3rd-i/staff/abbadon/...k/badges2.html
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These also come marked Wagner.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=13965
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Here's another example of the bad one in posts 3, 4, and 5. (It's the only Imperial resident of the Fakes Case!)
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Old 12-02-2003, 03:33 PM   #29
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Yep, the classic polish copy. Thanks for this contribution.
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Old 12-02-2003, 05:10 PM   #30
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Here is a website which deals with reproductions of Imperial German medals:

http://yawp.com/3rd-i/staff/abbadon/...k/badges2.html
The Imperial orders there look like the one-sided Göde "museum" copies which pop up from time to time and shouldn't fool anyone.

Here is an Order of the Zähringen Lion. This one-sided example truly is a "wearer's copy". From the front, the detail is pretty good (albeit not as good as an original) and much better than a Göde, but the back gives it away.


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