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Old 01-04-2018, 12:21 PM   #1
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what are these 2 swords?


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Old 01-04-2018, 12:58 PM   #2
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The top sword is either Thai or Laoation. The bottom is a Chinese fake trying to be Japanese.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:11 PM   #3
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Top one is a Thai sword.

Second one is a Chinese-made sword with a pseudo-Japanese attribution & motifs on the blade. The pseudo-attribution is:

中島新一郎作
Nakajima Shin'ichirō saku
Made by Nakajima Shin'ichirō


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EDITED for date (just FYI because it ain't authentic)

寛永十年 _ 月
Kan'ei 10th Year * Month. That would be 1634 if authentic ... but I doubt the Japanese used acid etching in 1634. (^__^)

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Old 01-04-2018, 10:57 PM   #4
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Guy,

The fake is a fake. It's not worth your translation. But it's good to know that this time the forgers put on a real Japanese name, instead of weird Japanese names found on many fakes.

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Is the top sword Thai or Vietnamese? Any positive ID? Thanks!

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Is the top sword Thai or Vietnamese? Any positive ID? Thanks!

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Thai. I lived in Thailand from 1968~70; these were sold on the streets everywhere. The steel is very soft. Better ones are used in krabi-krabong.

I used to watch the show every Friday night when we stayed at a hotel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARxOmb3SWw


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Here's a high-quality krabi maker. The sword in the original post is the tourist version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySrdu9jlPdI

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Old 01-05-2018, 08:55 AM   #7
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It takes a special breed of man to hand-forge swords wearing flip-flops. Being a man who's had a hot ember in a boot, I can assure you it will cause spastic dancing.

Also interesting that there's not a single English-pattern anvil (think Wile E. Coyote) in the shop. They seem to use metal cylinders as a working 'face'. Whatever it is looks really soft, as the top has mushroomed over.

That is some traditional coal-forged water-quenched smithing in action. Very interesting.
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Hello,

thanks to all for your help.


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