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11-23-2004, 09:27 PM
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This is a 1935 G.Appel kit that is marked for the Deutsche Reichs Post
with the matching spoon.
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11-23-2004, 09:34 PM
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Here is another 1935 G.Appel kit that is also marked for the Deutsche Reichs Post (Hnvr), but on the inside of the lid
with its matching spoon. Take note that this is the first variation of the spoon. It did not have the floorplate stud on it. These are very rare.
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11-24-2004, 05:21 AM
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Hi Robert!
I have seen that type of chain in cmr45 kits where oilers are made of molded alloy metal.
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Carl,
Very nice site VERY nice! I did not see the version of chain I posted next to my late war sheet metal oiler... have you seen it before?
Thanks!
Robert
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11-24-2004, 11:36 PM
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Hi Robert!
I have seen that type of chain in cmr45 kits where oilers are made of molded alloy metal.
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Carl,
Thanks for the feedback BUT this chain is blued is that not odd?
Regards,
Robert
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11-25-2004, 10:27 AM
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The steel "barrels" on my "rco45" pullthrough are also blued. I think the crude wire tip is also. Just a good way to protect the steel, and I guess easier than phosphating such small pieces..I guess.
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11-25-2004, 11:05 AM
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Jos or Francois,
Could this thread be pinned? It is very useful! It would be nice if we could have a set of pinned threads showing the variations of basic fieldgear e.g. gasmasks and cans, bread bags etc. for reference 
Matt
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11-25-2004, 01:36 PM
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Jos or Francois,
Could this thread be pinned? It is very useful! It would be nice if we could have a set of pinned threads showing the variations of basic fieldgear e.g. gasmasks and cans, bread bags etc. for reference
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Great point, this is a super thread and has already helped me a bunch... as usual nice job Willi!
Robert
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11-25-2004, 04:10 PM
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Hi Robert!
I have seen them both phophated, blued and white metal so I guess they used what was in hand in the moment during the production. This might be a result of low quality standard inspection of such war material in the last days.
Regards
Carl
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Carl,
Thanks for the feedback BUT this chain is blued is that not odd?
Regards,
Robert
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11-25-2004, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Ellingstad
Hi Robert!
I have seen them both phophated, blued and white metal so I guess they used what was in hand in the moment during the production. This might be a result of low quality standard inspection of such war material in the last days.
Regards
Carl
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Carl,
You are always very quick to help people, so I will send you some scans ( of pictures ) next week of a Kust Art. engagement with WWII documentation describing the event; a Russian commando raid that went sour with the wrecked ship and dead commandos littering the beach, the event took place on Krim. I even have the name and address of the person who took them ( I should check if he still is alive ). All of it againt a Kust. Art unit ( By the way my Grandfather was a Kust. art. man in France, Norway and Denmark ), my way of thanking you!
Robert
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11-29-2004, 02:34 PM
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This is falling off the page without being pinned! 
Matt
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11-29-2004, 02:52 PM
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Robert: Always a pleasure to help other members!
Looking forward to see the scans you wrote about.
Regards
Carl
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Carl,
You are always very quick to help people, so I will send you some scans ( of pictures ) next week of a Kust Art. engagement with WWII documentation describing the event; a Russian commando raid that went sour with the wrecked ship and dead commandos littering the beach, the event took place on Krim. I even have the name and address of the person who took them ( I should check if he still is alive ). All of it againt a Kust. Art unit ( By the way my Grandfather was a Kust. art. man in France, Norway and Denmark ), my way of thanking you!
Robert
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12-02-2004, 09:14 PM
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Willi great pics thanks! I am a firm believer that RCO 45 RG34 cans included a variation of the oiler that you do not show. It is a black plastic oiler. I have found over 5 of them. Certainly they could be post war but one must also believe they could be late war too. If anyone needs one i have a few sans the cleaning chain. pm me. regards, john
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12-02-2004, 10:14 PM
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Here is an example of a cmr 45 kit.
The oiler in it is slightly different from the one in Willi's kit in that it has a weld seam in the middle. This kit also has the simplest form of the cleaning chain.
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12-02-2004, 10:21 PM
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Here is another one my Dad brought back...
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12-02-2004, 10:22 PM
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end stamp...
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As it was their duty to defend our freedom, so it becomes our duty to honor their service.
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