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Old 08-22-2017, 09:01 PM   #46
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Here is the only goldgelb tropical strap I have encountered. Yes, the bottom wool is feldgrau.
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Thanks for posting that outstanding strap. Could tell right away which branch it is
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:40 PM   #47
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Here are three (original) yellow piped tropical straps. The enlisted strap on the left is the only true Aufklarungs piped strap of the group, the other two are Nachrichtungs.
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As most of you know, Waffenfarbe is sometimes difficult to identify due to subtle variations of dye lots and environmental factors like fading due to exposure to sunlight, water etc., or darkening due to soiling. The subject strap initially appeared to be a typical signals strap. In later shots it appeared more golden yellow. Even relatively mint Waffenfarbe can cause uncertainty. Here are two continental field caps with soutache; cavalry or signals?
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You got me, first glance at your first pic of just the two caps thought maybe Kav ? But next photo with the comparison is very telling. Also the other two caps, (not the Frankenstein dated '42) are maybe from the same maker ? Can you post the stamps for them too, earlier date ?

Your nice DAK Feldwebel straps look like signals to me and are less gold, more soft yellow like the single Chris posted. Thanks for showing.

The background of the photo can also add or confuse the true shade/color. Outdoor sunlight is the best imo. However as has already been said its better to make a comparison than to try to tell on a single subject. As your post # 47 clearly shows the Recon gold from the Signals yellow, great straps again

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Old 08-23-2017, 12:12 AM   #49
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With the worldwide excitement over the discovery of a rare DAK Waffenfarbe , I wondered if a pair I had could possibly be Recon as well:
Detailed study and beyond doubt conclusion is now shown in this thread;

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=925991

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Old 08-31-2017, 09:21 PM   #50
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Here are a few more pic's of the strap. First couple in outdoor daylight. The sun fading is more evident. & You can see the added tresse sewn on at an angle not straight across, especially from the photo of the reverse . Indicative of the Feldwebel adding the tresse himself ? The pip is more ornate than most, is it an earlier one, anyone ?

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Old 08-31-2017, 09:26 PM   #51
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& one more at twilight & the pip ?
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Old 09-06-2017, 06:23 AM   #52
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Hi Tim,

Thanks for sharing the extra photos, as they clearly show the golden yellow piping.

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Thanks Dermot for the compliment, coming from you thats's real cool.



Here is a photo of the AA33 with a TK pennant flying off it's antenna. Over the years have seen a couple TK pennant's photo's in Afrika but not one attributed to any specific unit, usually flown off Pz's. & No this is not photo-shopped. The cyclist's are wearing the Dutch/SA sunhelmets & the AFV crew have sidecaps with copper ?

From the Tanks Illustrated no 17 Afrikakorps by George Balin. The caption mentions it's from the 15th Pz Div by the AFV markings, (maybe from the 8th Pz Regt but thats an error, there are no SDKFZ 222 in the 8th) so it's from AA33 instead. So not only the 8th Pz Regt flew the TK pennant in Afrika...


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Thanks Dermot for the compliment, coming from you thats's real cool.



Here is a photo of the AA33 with a TK pennant flying off it's antenna. Over the years have seen a couple TK pennant's photo's in Afrika but not one attributed to any specific unit, usually flown off Pz's. & No this is not photo-shopped. The cyclist's are wearing the Dutch/SA sunhelmets & the AFV crew have sidecaps with copper ?

From the Tanks Illustrated no 17 Afrikakorps by George Balin. The caption mentions it's from the 15th Pz Div by the AFV markings, (maybe from the 8th Pz Regt but thats an error, there are no SDKFZ 222 in the 8th) so it's from AA33 instead. So not only the 8th Pz Regt flew the TK pennant in Afrika...


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Fantastic information, looks like you really can appreciate what you have which is always nice to see when fascination shines through!
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Old 09-17-2017, 03:18 AM   #55
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Well Daniel it's really hat's off to You and your thread. Your discovery of this unique piece of DAK Recon history has really turned more than a few heads around

Not only was the TK flown on pennants in Afrika by the AA33. Sculls were attached to the tunic's of the 1st Co (AC) in each Recon Bn but not the 2nd & 3rd Co's. Here again is another photo from the AA3 1st Co. Also should mention the TO & E for the 1st Co AA3 & AA33 is not quite how i stated it back in post # 36. I omitted the SDKFZ 221's which i'm sure a few of you noticed ? There were 7 221's in AA3 and 8 221's in AA33. So the 1st Company had 5 platoons of armored cars.

1st (Hv) platoon 6 SDKFZ 231
2nd (Md) platoon 6 SDKFZ 222
3rd (Md) platoon 6 SDKFZ 222
4th (Lt) platoon 3 SDKFZ 222 & 3 SDKFZ 221
5th (Lt) platoon 3 SDKFZ 222 & 3 SDKFZ 221
with the remaining 221's in the Stab platoon

Heia Safari !
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