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Old 06-29-2018, 05:45 PM   #1
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I've been offered an 1870 IC 2nd class . It appears original being the right dimensions, magnetic core, etc. The only problem i have with it is, that the frame is silver or nickle plated brass rather than solid silver .
Should all 1870 IC's have silver frames, could a plated brass frame indicate a fake or a later made piece.
I've just started collecting iron crosses, and am a bit out of my comfort zone with this cross. Any info would be appreciated .

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Old 06-29-2018, 06:04 PM   #2
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woth no pictures I am not sure what do you expect ?:-)
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I was simply asking a question as to whether a contemporary 1870 IC should have a silver frame or not
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Old 06-29-2018, 10:41 PM   #4
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Some 1870s made by AWS ( A.Werner & Sohn) had non silver frames.
You would be able to tell one made by AWS by the shape of the crown.

Here is one of mine---
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:48 AM   #5
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Some 1870s made by AWS ( A.Werner & Sohn) had non silver frames.
You would be able to tell one made by AWS by the shape of the crown.

Here is one of mine---
Beautiful AWS cross !

I have a very similar AWS jubilee cross but on a non-combatants ribbon.













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Old 06-30-2018, 04:58 AM   #6
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Nice cross, Alex, with matching AWS oakleaves.

AWS, S&L and even A-type core can be seen with non-silver frames.
But some fakes can be seen with alloy frames as well.
So it is not the best criterium to tell good 1870 cross from bad one.
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Thanks for the info everyone

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Old 07-02-2018, 09:23 AM   #8
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In the case of the Jubilee Cross /the one we're discussing /, and not the original granted, is possible that the frame is of another metal than silver
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