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HJ knife dress dagger style ?!
Old 04-18-2017, 02:02 PM   #1
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Hi to all,

just got in this "looks like dress dagger HJ knife" and would like to hear your opinions about this.
The handle is with a HJ diamond.

I sertainly do have an opinion on this one but do also want to hear your ideas on it.
Sorry for the bad pics - did not have any other opportunity.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-18-2017, 02:03 PM   #2
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:27 PM   #4
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Can you determine how the emblem is affixed to the grip? Does it have any movement when touched? Generally speaking, there are far more fakes out there than period examples.

When a piece is suspected as possibly being period, it needs to be x-rayed to see if it's pinned through the hilt.
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Old 04-18-2017, 04:18 PM   #5
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Can you determine how the emblem is affixed to the grip? Does it have any movement when touched? Generally speaking, there are far more fakes out there than period examples.

When a piece is suspected as possibly being period, it needs to be x-rayed to see if it's pinned through the hilt.
I agree with Billy 100%.

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Old 04-18-2017, 04:31 PM   #6
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X-Rays will also show if a hat type of diamond was used as seen with some fakes that do "wiggle", with anoher factor to be considered IMO the hilt material which was specified in period regulations for HJ knives that were approved. (That is not the case for later period dress bayonets). FP
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:49 AM   #7
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IMO postwar.
Nickle plating on bayonet handle is showing some age. But HJ insignia looks brand new.


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Old 04-19-2017, 12:02 PM   #8
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Sorry, I don't like the HJ emblem based on this pictures.


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Old 04-21-2017, 11:54 AM   #9
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Hi,

and first of all thank you for your opinions. I tried to take some more and especially better photos of the dagger.
Please have a look. Unfortunatly, I think that there is no x-ray available for me

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I don't like it myself. JMO
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Have your Dentist take an x ray. Its the only way to tell.
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X-Rays can certainly be helpful, but sometimes I think you also have to go with your experience. Not being Klaas specialist myself, I can't say if they had a difficult time installing the diamonds in the grip plates. Having a problem as a generalist with the installation here which mirrors some known fakes in that the diamonds are significantly tilted with one end up flush or almost flush with the surface of the grip, and the other end sharply down inside the grip cavity. FP

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