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Old 09-29-2017, 10:00 AM   #16
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I am not sure what exactly is that. Let me know and I will get you the pics from friend of mine.

Hello RD;

This is a great group.

The EK1, with it's interesting clasp is desirable to many EK collectors.

The Wurtemburg Golden Military Merit Medal (WGMMM) is particularly important to this group. It was an award for conspicuous bravery -not just service. The medal here is signed by the sculpture and medal designer; "K Schwenzer". I can't read the ose, but I'll defer to those that say it is marked "333". It is a less rare version of the medal, but again, the WGMMM was awarded for notable bravery. If you can get a name, it will be possible to look up details; date of the award, the action involved. That could lead to finding a photo of him too. I would highly recommend learning the gents name.

"closeup of the two Feldspangen" -those are the two ribbon bars. The wreaths on the ribbon bars should be plain gold. If they were enameled they would refer to the awarding of a Wurtemburg Order.

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Old 09-29-2017, 10:41 AM   #17
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That could lead to finding a photo of him too.

There are only ~ 1500 photos of ex- NCO and EM (Lt.d.L.a.D. and some others)

Only pics with WMVO were listed. But also not all of the ~ 2900 awarded officers.

And if it is possible, i would also need a photo of the bar`s backside.

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Old 09-29-2017, 11:26 AM   #18
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So this is the story of this group. Friend of mine got a call from a retired army guy who was stationed in Germany in 1970's. He bought some furniture at estate sale there and had it shipped to US. When they were getting it set up desk tipped, and hidden door opened and this stuff fell out of it. That is how he found it. So unfortunately no name on this one.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:28 AM   #19
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This was also in there
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:47 AM   #20
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Very interesting. It seems it was hidden after Mid 1945.
When was the book printed?
Seems that he worked at Finanzamt Stuttgart-Ost or at the Reichsbahn in Stuttgart.

Stuttgart is the capital of Württemberg. Today there´s no Finanzamt at the eastern
part of it.

Seems that he was reactivated as an (Finanz or Reichsbahn) - sekretär or inspektor at the Homefront. This would declare the KVK2 without swords.

Unfortunately no name.... huhu i could cry... but i would have a couple of guys
that had the GMMM (late one) and a MVO4X (type of 1915/16)

Does the stamp (Stempel) on the Frachtbrief have a date?
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:01 PM   #21
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:02 PM   #22
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:42 PM   #23
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Very good pics. Thanks.

This type of ribbons are typical württemberg. May be the bar was made by Bux Stuttgart/Königsbau.

I am not a bavarian expert, but i am nearly sure, that the MVO was made by Hemmerle or Weiss. have a look at the swords or the Agraffe. I could be stamped.
This type was awarded till 1916. It has a small enamel crack.

Now i know, why the GMMM is hanging some kind of poor on it`s ribbon:

He got it after the end of 1915. Later the most officers got the württemberg
MVO, because its higher rank as the GMMM.

You can see it on the ribbon bars:
The first one was made as he got the IC/GMMM/MVO4X. Later he got the württemberg MVO, as you can see the green enamel (it shows the MVO not the GMMM). The bigger bar was made in the 1940s as he was reactivated and
earned the nazi KVK2.

Normally the GMMM had to be returned to the württemberg war department, as he got the MVO, so i think at your bar the MVO is missing. But i don`t know why.

Damn - because of he got the MVO later it is very hard to find a name.
The only what we are know, it is that he was officier and he was reactivated in WW2 and it seems that he served in Stuttgart.
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I have checked all of my Württemberg officer/NCO/EM. pics. (nearly 3000).

Sorry, no match.
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I have checked all of my Württemberg officer/NCO/EM. pics. (nearly 3000).

Sorry, no match.

Thank you
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:49 PM   #26
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Excellent find you did. Beautiful items.
My favourite is the ek1.
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Fantastic and wonderful group. Wish it was
in my collection. If for sale one day, send me
a PM;-)

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Friend of mine asked me what would be value of this grouping? And also what was the value of the gold medal, if it was on its own? He said he did not find one for sale.
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I will let others comment on value. You can try search old catalogs on Andreas Thiess, he have sold some in the past. Its also
possible Hermann Historica sold some. But the value on these items are higher as a group in my opinion. And the value of the
medal on the medal bar much higher as its very hard to find one on a medal bar like this.

Removing the medal from the medal bar, would reduce value, and
in my book almost be a crime. A very very wonderful medal bar.

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I will let others comment on value. You can try search old catalogs on Andreas Thiess, he have sold some in the past. Its also
possible Hermann Historica sold some. But the value on these items are higher as a group in my opinion. And the value of the
medal on the medal bar much higher as its very hard to find one on a medal bar like this.

Removing the medal from the medal bar, would reduce value, and
in my book almost be a crime. A very very wonderful medal bar.

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Nicolai,
He is not trying to remove the medal, he is trying to price them individually so he can approximately find a value. He is US collector and I am not sure why he is even thinking about keeping it.
And one more time this is not my collection so asking me to sell it to you, it is not mine to sell.
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