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Old 02-18-2012, 03:14 AM   #31
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Two models of the small assault pack,






have you wrapped an italian rectangular zelt on this pack, or a triangular german-made italian zelt?
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:20 AM   #32
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some stills from the german footage.
sturmgepack 44 on top of standard rucksack;
italian messkit in use on landser cyclist.
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pack rear detail. seems like a non regulation blanket there. fresh post-july bomb plot wehrmacht.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #34
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"have you wrapped an italian rectangular zelt on this pack, or a triangular german-made italian zelt? "

A German-made one.

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Old 02-18-2012, 09:41 AM   #35
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1943 date,








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At last some "HDV look a like info" on this topic......at last. Thnkx Jan R.
Corp. Steiner i've seen this footage once and I was never able to find it back. Thnx...


To simplify the individual equipment and baggage, test were carried out in april 1944 with the medium sized Gefechtsrucksack and a small assault backpack both to be hooked on the "heavy" Y-straps or worn together marching order style.
On 30 mai 1944 the test were positive completed in the test school of the Erzatsheer.
"Neuregelung des Rückengepäck", 27 april 1944, BA-MA RH 11/I/51, 116-18.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:57 AM   #37
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In combination with a 1943 dated Tornister 39,



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nicely demonstrated.
question-the fur tornister...was it made throughout the war? 43 at least...
i wonder why the later sturm...44 pack had this rear tab fixture.
it wouldnt have been used for attaching to late war rucksacks, only the 'older' tornisters...a late war item then designed to fit earlier war items.
seems this tornister tab is a rare feature to these sturm...44 packs.
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Very informative thread, as i just came across one these and wondered about the side straps.
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Corp. Steiner.....I think the intention of the rear horizontal tab is obvious. Prohibit bouncing of the backpack when running or when leaning forward prohibit that the backpack is moving suddenly forward.......... I don't know if you ever run with a backpack on your back Corp. Steiner ..I can assure you it's no fun when its bouncing around......A simple solution.....for a nasty problem in the field....
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Corp. Steiner.....I think the intention of the rear horizontal tab is obvious. Prohibit bouncing of the backpack when running or when leaning forward prohibit that the backpack is moving suddenly forward.......... I don't know if you ever run with a backpack on your back Corp. Steiner ..I can assure you it's no fun when its bouncing around......A simple solution.....for a nasty problem in the field....
thanks for clarifying!
my question is really to do with why some sturmpacks had this tab and some didnt.
is it just the model with side straps?
or do front mounted strap versions also have this helpful tab to rear, to stop the backpack bobbing up and down, as eric helpfully describes?
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thanks for clarifying!
my question is really to do with why some sturmpacks had this tab and some didnt.
is it just the model with side straps?
or do front mounted strap versions also have this helpful tab to rear, to stop the backpack bobbing up and down, as eric helpfully describes?
most packs did not have that small rear tab
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:19 PM   #43
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in common with most german gear there are numberless variations with all the items unlike the british & american gear witch is much standard & very few variations in comparison...just see how many different german canteens or how many different rucksacks etc...do not expect one german item to be 100% identical to an other
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nicely demonstrated.
question-the fur tornister...was it made throughout the war? 43 at least...
i wonder why the later sturm...44 pack had this rear tab fixture.
it wouldnt have been used for attaching to late war rucksacks, only the 'older' tornisters...a late war item then designed to fit earlier war items.
seems this tornister tab is a rare feature to these sturm...44 packs.
The tornister was made and issued throughout the war. I have and have seen late war examples marked with RB numbers.
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Another combination,

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