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Old 02-11-2012, 11:16 AM   #1
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Does anyone know exactly how he looked sturmgepack M44?
Recently I came across this information in the internet, but something about it harder to find.
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:59 AM   #2
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As far I know production of the A-frame has been stopped in 1944. Maybe that is why You cant find anything about issue Sturmgepack in M44 pattern
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:03 AM   #3
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Could it be that you are referring to the Artillery Rucksack with straps for Zeltbahn that was introduced in 44 and was a replacement for the A-frame ?

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Maybe this one
Old 02-12-2012, 09:13 AM   #4
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This one Tom is referring to................
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:48 PM   #5
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can we clarify a rucksack fact here? is this particular model an artillery backpack? or an 'm44' backpack
and, if an m44 sturm... is the right designation here, when did it take over from the aframe?
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Thats the right question.........
Old 02-12-2012, 12:55 PM   #6
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can we clarify a rucksack fact here? is this particular model an artillery backpack? or an 'm44' backpack
and, if an m44 sturm... is the right designation here, when did it take over from the aframe?
Just the right question asked here Corporal Steiner!!!!I still have to see the HDV about the actually switch from A-frame to this one.....My guess ...they were both used/issued....

Maybe Tom can help out here with his "HDV fetish"....
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:49 PM   #7
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Just the right question asked here Corporal Steiner!!!!I still have to see the HDV about the actually switch from A-frame to this one.....My guess ...they were both used/issued....

Maybe Tom can help out here with his "HDV fetish"....
I far as I rember , somebody already wrote in past thread, that artillery rucksack with leather straps for zelt were introduced the same period of time when M44 breadbag was introduced ( autumn 1944 ) and were the replacment for A-frames.

The A-frames were discountinued ( like folding shovels ) somewhere of late 1943, early 1944 .

The artillery rucksack were also changing through war ; first were quite big and had backstraps mounted permanently. Than in midwar period were smaller and had hooks for wearing with Y-straps, and in late stage were small and had additional straps for zeltbahn.
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:11 PM   #8
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anmarlodz- excellent sketch on the variants. any more info on midwar small packs to be worn on ystraps? ive seen blue n green ones in this style...barely fit a family sized loaf of bread in it...thats more space than an aframe bag though.
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working on it

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Old 02-12-2012, 04:59 PM   #10
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M44 Sturmrucksack= above
Ari Rucksack= with leather straps right and left, for the Zeltbahn

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Old 02-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #11
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Yes, I mean Artillery Rucksack.
On the internet I found information that was called Sturmrucksack M44.
A backpack, was used by infantry and pioneers.
I first met with such a term for Artillery Rucksack, so the subject interested me.
Just do not know if this is true or false about the backpack.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:35 PM   #12
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Artillery rucksacks have integral shoulder straps and were introduced in February 1940 (H.M. 40, Nr 298) for non-mounted Artillery personnel as a substitute for the A-frame, at this time Artillery soldiers were not issued Y-straps. Sometime probably around late 1943 or 1944 production of the A-frame was halted entirely and a new small rucksack was introduced to replace the A-frame and Tornister. This new small rucksack was similar to the Artillery rucksack but it had hooks for Y-straps, instead of shoulder straps, and it had straps for the Zeltbahn. If it has no shoulder straps it is not an Artillery rucksack regardless of misinformation from collectors and dealers.
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Thanks Chris!
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Artillery rucksacks have integral shoulder straps and were introduced in February 1940 (H.M. 40, Nr 298) for non-mounted Artillery personnel as a substitute for the A-frame, at this time Artillery soldiers were not issued Y-straps. Sometime probably around late 1943 or 1944 production of the A-frame was halted entirely and a new small rucksack was introduced to replace the A-frame and Tornister. This new small rucksack was similar to the Artillery rucksack but it had hooks for Y-straps, instead of shoulder straps, and it had straps for the Zeltbahn. If it has no shoulder straps it is not an Artillery rucksack regardless of misinformation from collectors and dealers.
well done, chris.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:40 PM   #15
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Chris: not to replace the A-frame, but the tornister

Unfortunately no info on the rucksacks with added zelt straps

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