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Old 12-03-2017, 08:52 AM   #1
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Default Newbie with a new (to me) KwEa

Hello all, I have a very specific interest in my collecting due to a family connection. I was on kijiji the other day and for whatever reason put it ww2 and found an old German radio listed as just that, old German radio. I picked it up for $180, no idea on value but to me I was willing to pay that to have this. That said, I have no idea what I have. I've done some reading on it and I think it would have been used in a funkwagen? I know it was used in many places. Most of the reading I've done seems to be brief descriptions of many different radios though, not much specifically on the KwEa, so if anyone knows of a good source, please let me know.

I have a few questions:

How hard will it be to find and replace parts? Repro is fine by me. Also is there a source for this stuff or should I just keep an eye open?

What obvious parts am I missing other than the dial and meter on the front and the lid?

Would it be possible to have someone make it work again or is that a really niche skill and cost prohibitive? I'm in IT but this is way out of my league.

Lastly, would it have been used in a funkwagen and was the purpose to receive morse code signals?

Thanks a lot!



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Old 12-03-2017, 09:34 AM   #2
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Congrats on your find and welcome to the forum. The Kw.E.a is a high quality short wave (Kw stands for "Kurzwelle") receiver, also known as the short-wave "Anton". It was mainly used by both Heer and Luftwaffe troops specialised in long range transmissions. As such it would typically be found at higher headquarters at corps and army levels. It could be found in larger radio vehicles (the Kfz 72 in particular) but more typically in stationary setups.

As far as I can see it is missing the band change handle and the instrument, both of which should be possible to find (e.g. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Einstellknop...kAAOSwI8laCWYD). From the inside it is missing all its valves (mainly RV2P800, again not too difficult to find) and some cover plates. Apart from the cover plates (which will have to be remade), completing the set should not be an unrealistic target.

Restoration to working order is another matter though. There are very few people left that can fault find and repair these radios, it is extremely time consuming so the cost of restoration will far, far exceed the value of the radio.

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Old 12-03-2017, 10:22 AM   #3
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Congrats on your find and welcome to the forum. The Kw.E.a is a high quality short wave (Kw stands for "Kurzwelle") receiver, also known as the short-wave "Anton". It was mainly used by both Heer and Luftwaffe troops specialised in long range transmissions. As such it would typically be found at higher headquarters at corps and army levels. It could be found in larger radio vehicles (the Kfz 72 in particular) but more typically in stationary setups.

As far as I can see it is missing the band change handle and the instrument, both of which should be possible to find (e.g. https://www.ebay.de/itm/Einstellknop...kAAOSwI8laCWYD). From the inside it is missing all its valves (mainly RV2P800, again not too difficult to find) and some cover plates. Apart from the cover plates (which will have to be remade), completing the set should not be an unrealistic target.

Restoration to working order is another matter though. There are very few people left that can fault find and repair these radios, it is extremely time consuming so the cost of restoration will far, far exceed the value of the radio.

regards,

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Thanks a lot, I have ordered that dial and some tubes. Too bad it wasn't for more local usage, I am specifically interested in equipment used in a Kfz 17 Funkwagen which my grandfather used. None the less, this is still interesting to me Looking around now the Te30 tubes seem to be harder to find initially. Do you know anyone that manufactures those cover plates and maybe the top lid?
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Old 12-03-2017, 10:51 AM   #4
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The Kfz 17 is my favourite too! The Kw.E.a is a bit too large for a Kfz 17, especially if a shortwave transmitter has to be carried as well. The Kfz 17 more typically carried lower powered long/medium wave equipment for medium distance communications:



As far as the covers are concerned, I have had to make these from scratch for different radios over the years. Lots of measuring, shaping and figure sawing aluminium sheet. Not an easy job for the Kw.E.a covers, a job I like to avoid if I can....

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Old 12-03-2017, 11:21 AM   #5
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Congrats for your "Anton" receiver,

I also have just bought one of them and started the restoration process , you can see that few threads lower, about the restoration if you haven't already found them, first read the execellent LA6NCA and LA8AK pages:

http://www.la6nca.net/tysk/kwea/index.htm

http://noding.com/la8ak/22b.htm

p.s. in case you wouldn't chose to restore it you can aways sell it as spare part pieces, In that case I would be interested in the rotary voltage switch.

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Hello all, I have a very specific interest in my collecting due to a family connection. I was on kijiji the other day and for whatever reason put it ww2 and found an old German radio listed as just that, old German radio. I picked it up for $180, no idea on value but to me I was willing to pay that to have this. That said, I have no idea what I have. I've done some reading on it and I think it would have been used in a funkwagen? I know it was used in many places. Most of the reading I've done seems to be brief descriptions of many different radios though, not much specifically on the KwEa, so if anyone knows of a good source, please let me know.

I have a few questions:

How hard will it be to find and replace parts? Repro is fine by me. Also is there a source for this stuff or should I just keep an eye open?

What obvious parts am I missing other than the dial and meter on the front and the lid?

Would it be possible to have someone make it work again or is that a really niche skill and cost prohibitive? I'm in IT but this is way out of my league.

Lastly, would it have been used in a funkwagen and was the purpose to receive morse code signals?

Thanks a lot!
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:05 PM   #6
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IK5QLO: Thanks for the links. Hehe, I am not interested in parting it out or selling it but I will follow your restoration and keep an eye open for parts you need.

Funksammler: very nice, is that yours? You made the covers yourself? Nice, I may attempt that then..I'm not the best at that stuff though, haha.

Here are photos of the one I like, my ultimate goal is to recreate a display of my grandfather sitting at his station inside his KfZ.17, equipment and uniform









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Nice series of Kfz17 photographs. To me these tell all sorts of stories... It is difficult to recognise the radios in the first picture, it might well be the 100 W.S. (as in the picture I posted), with the operator adjusting the antenna tuning. The vehicle is heavily loaded and has a few non-standard items on board. The petrol can rack on the roof will not have improved the functioning of the roof antenna. They also carried a MG-34 instead of a normal rifle in the co-driver's seat. They also exchanged their 8 meter for a 9 meter telescopic mast. I guess on the tundra they did not have to worry if the retracted mast snagged on overhead tree branches too much and the 9 meter mast might have given them a bit of extra range... It looks like they broke the rear suspension, probably due to driving the overloaded vehicle on bad roads, it seems that they drove on with it as the winter pictures still show the collapsed suspension. It can't have been a comfortable drive...The two guys trying to cold start the generator in the dead of winter, I can almost hear them swear! Some armoured uniforms and a Sd.kfz 250 visible, so these guys were probably with a HQ unit of an armoured division. A bit like mine:



DarExc, do you know which unit your grandfather served in?

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Nice series of Kfz17 photographs. To me these tell all sorts of stories... It is difficult to recognise the radios in the first picture, it might well be the 100 W.S. (as in the picture I posted), with the operator adjusting the antenna tuning. The vehicle is heavily loaded and has a few non-standard items on board. The petrol can rack on the roof will not have improved the functioning of the roof antenna. They also carried a MG-34 instead of a normal rifle in the co-driver's seat. They also exchanged their 8 meter for a 9 meter telescopic mast. I guess on the tundra they did not have to worry if the retracted mast snagged on overhead tree branches too much and the 9 meter mast might have given them a bit of extra range... It looks like they broke the rear suspension, probably due to driving the overloaded vehicle on bad roads, it seems that they drove on with it as the winter pictures still show the collapsed suspension. It can't have been a comfortable drive...The two guys trying to cold start the generator in the dead of winter, I can almost hear them swear! Some armoured uniforms and a Sd.kfz 250 visible, so these guys were probably with a HQ unit of an armoured division. A bit like mine:



DarExc, do you know which unit your grandfather served in?

regards,

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VERY cool! Yes, I do, it was 2./Pz.Nachr.Abt.Grossdeutschland Thanks for that info, that's awesome details! He always told me he was cleaning a MG34 in the front passenger seat in the one photo, that's cool that one does go there, basically confirming that. I know he told me they had an issue with their generator. He was the funktruppfuehrer, one of his men tried to fix it without asking. Apparently that was a big no-no as they were not plentiful and should be repaired by authorized specialists only. He ended up breaking it and my grandfather took responsibility. He was sent either to a trench or a cell for a week for it, I don't remember exactly which one. The funny thing is he made contact with this guy again in 2005 or something and he was really rude to him, he told me the story and said he wished he had of ratted him out 60+ years prior XD

He got in trouble with a similar punishment another time for having his headphones on the seat at 2AM when a Lt came to inspect. He told me it was really loud so he didn't need to wear them, he was happy for the punishment because he was listing to Swiss news at the time and could have been shot if the Lt heard it, he said that Lt was a known nazi.

I know this vehicle ended up being replaced with a half track of some kind, there are no photos of that though, the photos end in 43 I think...I have a few from his leave in 44, but those were at home and somewhere else in Europe returning from leave, another soldier took them and mailed them to him, nothing to do with signals.

You're lucky to have the vehicle, that's so cool!
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:14 PM   #9
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Congrats on the new set, and welcome to the forum/hobby. I've restored a couple of these sets, and below is a record of one of these restorations. LA6NCA should also have an excellent page about this receiver on his site.

http://kriegsfunker.com/restoration/restore_kwea1.php
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Congrats on the new set, and welcome to the forum/hobby. I've restored a couple of these sets, and below is a record of one of these restorations. LA6NCA should also have an excellent page about this receiver on his site.

http://kriegsfunker.com/restoration/restore_kwea1.php
Wow, that is awesome, thanks a lot!
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