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Old 07-07-2019, 03:39 AM   #1
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Hello,

I am looking for a VT cuff-title for the Sanitätsabteilung.

But this one that they at Weitze calls SS-VT cuff is not so if I am not mistaken..As I understand the SS-VT !Sanitätsabteilung" is without a hyphen..?..or have I misunderstood something..?..

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/36/...g__193936.html

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Old 07-07-2019, 04:59 AM   #2
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Forgot a photo..sorry..
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Old 07-07-2019, 05:01 AM   #3
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Hi,

pictures for the sake of the discussion and the WAF archives, courtesy of Weitze.

See You

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Old 07-07-2019, 05:57 AM   #4
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I believe the hyphenated version is for the Allgemeine and the "Sanitätsabteilung" version for the SS-VT, at least according to Angolia. Cloth Insignia of the SS, 2nd Edition, 1989, Page 151.

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sanitas - abt.
Old 07-07-2019, 11:10 AM   #5
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This cufftitle was only made with the hyphen for the TV & VT units .
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:02 PM   #6
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This cufftitle was only made with the hyphen for the TV & VT units .
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Are there any photographic evidence to confirm this claim, or is Angolia wrong?

Not trying to argue, just want to see historical evidence to this claim.
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:12 PM   #7
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yes to both of your questions
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Old 07-07-2019, 12:46 PM   #8
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This cufftitle was only made with the hyphen for the TV & VT units .
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Hi Jimt, and thanks for this interesting input.

So, both Angolia and Mollo is wrong on this issue..?..Where can this info be found..?..
It is really important for me as I am looking for the specific VT/TV cuff. And not Allgemeine-SS.

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Old 07-07-2019, 02:07 PM   #9
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yes to both of your questions
Ok, to be more specific:

- Where can we see this photographic evidence?
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Old 07-07-2019, 02:26 PM   #10
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Ok, to be more specific:

- Where can we see this photographic evidence?
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Old 07-07-2019, 03:37 PM   #11
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Michael, thanks, that is a killer photo..!!..and good evidence..So Weitze is right, Angolia and Mollo wrong...or are we having a case of improvising. Already the medic is wearing the officers Ärmelraute and not the one for EN/NCO, so maybe the cuff is also "what we have available"..just speculating...and getting more and more confused...

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Old 07-07-2019, 03:49 PM   #12
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Jim is absolutely correct. Official regulations specify that the cuff title "Sanitaets-Abteilung" was authorised for the SS-VT and TV only.
The Allgemeine-SS used a completely different system with the Sanitaets-Abteilung being combined with either the name of the Oberabschnitte or at the Abschnitt level combined with the appropriate Roman numeral.
The medical raute worn in Michael's photo does not indicate rank. Aluminium and black embroidered diamonds indicate the level of qualification or competence.
The Angolia reference is indeed incorrect.
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Old 07-07-2019, 04:39 PM   #13
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Here's another black SSVT uniform and mantel set that can be found on the internet.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:29 PM   #14
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I have seen two sanitas-abteilung albums for the VT both wear this same cufftitle with hyphen, sorry I cannot show photos as i do not own the albums.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:13 AM   #15
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Jim is absolutely correct. Official regulations specify that the cuff title "Sanitaets-Abteilung" was authorised for the SS-VT and TV only.
The Allgemeine-SS used a completely different system with the Sanitaets-Abteilung being combined with either the name of the Oberabschnitte or at the Abschnitt level combined with the appropriate Roman numeral.
The medical raute worn in Michael's photo does not indicate rank. Aluminium and black embroidered diamonds indicate the level of qualification or competence.
The Angolia reference is indeed incorrect.
Thanks Derek, I really get new info here..!!..you state theat the raute was only a question of level of education.?.. where can I find this information.?..(I do not doubt it, I just never had this info before..).

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