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Old 01-27-2018, 05:33 PM   #1
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Hi all,

Picked up a salty sword, but one which I think might be old. Yes the vague/arbitrary o word, perhaps 1868 or older is what I wonder. I don’t expect anything specific especially with this wall hanger. The color of the blade matches the tang, and unfortunately the last half towards the tip has pits, some nasty ones. What a shame as most would have polished up nicely...

Nonetheless, I picked this up because it was cheap and the tang caught my interest. The blade is sharp all the way. I have never seen this style of tang in the couple dozen swords I’ve handled here in PA... according to my copy of “The Samurai Sword” by John M. Yumoto the tang is kiri, or square as noobs like me say... Just starting to enduldge in this book...

So just posting for opinions (like thoughts on tang pre or post 20th century... or perhaps tears as I realize it’s quite appalling/sad in this condition, at least this serves as an example of what happens when you don’t take care of your swords. Enjoy and thanks.


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Old 01-27-2018, 05:36 PM   #2
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:39 PM   #3
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:42 PM   #4
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Old 01-27-2018, 08:04 PM   #6
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"Salty" is right! Looks like it was laying in a swamp for several years before someone picked it up!

Any story behind it?
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Old 01-27-2018, 08:39 PM   #7
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"Salty" is right! Looks like it was laying in a swamp for several years before someone picked it up!

Any story behind it?
Supposedly was picked up in Okinawa in a burned out pillbox in 1945. But the swamp scenario is probably just as likely lol.
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Old 01-27-2018, 08:45 PM   #8
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The top blade may not be Japanese. The shape of the tang looks bad.

Maybe someone could tell the whole story with one look at the tang, but for me, I have to see the complete blade no matter what, just in order to determine Japanese or otherwise.
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The top blade may not be Japanese. The shape of the tang looks bad.

Maybe someone could tell the whole story with one look at the tang, but for me, I have to see the complete blade no matter what, just in order to determine Japanese or otherwise.
There are two close-ups posted in the thread, but here’s the whole blade.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:04 AM   #10
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:11 AM   #11
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Square cut tang and file marks that go across the width, usually taken to mean a greatly cut down blade (O-suriage), done sometime after 1600 AD.

http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/suriage.html
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Square cut tang and file marks that go across the width, usually taken to mean a greatly cut down blade (O-suriage), done sometime after 1600 AD.

http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/suriage.html
Thank you for information and link.
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Old 02-10-2018, 01:46 PM   #13
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The bareblade is not Japanese, sorry.
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Old 02-10-2018, 02:30 PM   #14
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:51 PM   #15
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Japanese or not,its to far gone to have it polished.Its best kept as a relic.
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