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Old 04-27-2010, 02:25 PM   #1
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War Panzer Gyrocompass

Hi all Panzer peeps .
Can anyone please tell me the German Technical name for the Panzer II-III / Tiger Gyrocompass, can't find it anywhere .
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:15 PM   #2
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It's called "der Kurskreisel" and is discussed in some detail on page 44 of the Panther-Fibel
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:39 PM   #3
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Default Gyrocompass / Kurskreisel

Thankyou very much Nick , I didn't know it was used in the Panther.
Well, now I can work on posting images of my original "Kurskreisel" which arrived from Estonia a few days ago, it's not all there, but the main parts are, missing the rear dome and the Screw / Bulb fittings.
More later..cheers again..feind-hort-mit.

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Old 04-27-2010, 03:42 PM   #4
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I too need one screw/bulb fitting for mine, so let me know if you have success locating extras.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:36 PM   #5
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Default Gyrocompass / Kurskreisel

So you have too many for my liking Nick....
Only joking of course .
Well I can think about making something to fit, if you have the real deal..could you take a few snaps and post them here for me to see what they look like ?.
In the meantime, here is...if this works okay..my example, and also it is missing it's i/d plate, thinking about making one of those also .
Cheers again..Ian "feind-hort-mit".

okay, so it might be a day or two now, I have to put them up to a hosting site first, in the meantime feel free to post your pics of the item in question.

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Old 04-28-2010, 12:59 AM   #6
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I wrote about the device here, this may be helpful...
http://tiger1.info/EN/Gyrocompass.html

I can send photos of other ones if you want to compare.

Meanwhile, I'm trying to make a technical drawing of it, but I'm having some trouble. Would you be willing to make a few precise measurements for me?

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Old 04-28-2010, 01:46 AM   #7
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David Byrden hello there.
How did I not find your web-page on the Gyro ?, refered to your site many times as well.
Of course I can do that for you, the only other examples I have seen are from ebay and of course have captured the pics posted there .
It's the Tiger-1 link that made me buy it, although I now know most Panzers used them at some time or another.
Just for the record my example is # 8189, Bovington - 131 is # 9337, I can presume there is no list of actual fitting of these to actual marks of Panzers.
Anyhoo, of to work soon, more later.
Regards to all, Ian "feind-hort-mit"

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Old 04-28-2010, 04:20 PM   #8
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Did you receive my PM David ?.
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Old 05-02-2010, 03:36 AM   #9
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Lots of problems getting them here, but finally here they are.
Yet another one !!, lots more than I ever thought would have survived appear to be surfacing.
Regards..Ian "feind-hort-mit"
See below !!.

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double posted..see below

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Okay so here are those pics I promised.








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Old 05-03-2010, 04:04 AM   #12
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:11 AM   #13
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Thank you for the photos.

I'm reluctant to ask you to measure the device, because its shape makes good measurements difficult to get; you can't simply place a tape on it because there are things in the way. And I need it to millimeter accuracy. You would need calipers, really.

If you can get any of these figures to good accuracy, I would be grateful. But if you have trouble, please don't go ahead with a figure that might not be correct.

Here's what would be useful to measure:

http://tiger1.info/pictures/GyroDims.gif

In fact, have you a long lens? If you can just get the overall dimensions, and take photos of the device from the greatest possible distance, flat-on each side, that would let me do the rest.


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Should be no problem David.
Might be a few days though.
Best regards..Ian "feind-hort-mit".
ps, in mm or inches ?.

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Should be no problem David.
Might be a few days though.
Best regards..Ian "feind-hort-mit".
ps, in mm or inches ?.

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Millimeters of course. Always measure a thing in the same units that the designers used. You'll find a lot of dimensions are nice round figures, because nobody makes extra work for themselves.

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