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Old 01-12-2018, 12:37 PM   #151
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variant: maker mark "8" on the hinge. This example is also marked on the shoe with "900 21".
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:58 AM   #152
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Comparison of eagles on the 2nd / 4th class badge
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:25 PM   #153
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Another image of a fourth class plate with "900 L / 50" marking
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:19 PM   #154
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Nice posts Jesus!
Thanks for postings these.
I didn’t think the backs of the eagles on the Second Class awards were important, but now I see how interesting and important seeing the backs of the entire Second Class Badge can be. Thanks also for the eagle comparisons on the 2nd and 4th Class Awards.

Pete, Christopher is in the process of making more diagrams and classifying every type of eagles on the different Orders, to make the most complete comparisons possible. Also, he is in the process of compiling a huge list of the recipients of this award, with photographs of known recipients. I have seen some of his progress, and he is doing an incredible job. Also, he is working on other aspects of the order, that help distinguish them that I won’t get into now. I’m glad he is kind enough to share them with me.

Jesus, again, thanks for your posts ! Nice!

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Old 01-14-2018, 02:29 PM   #155
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hi Runic
Thanks again to Jesus on his work on this order.
As for your friend Christopher I think I can speak for all , that we are looking forward to seeing his finds and loggings .
Best regards Pete..
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:38 AM   #156
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There is a user of this forum and a Spanish friend who is a great specialist of the Order of the German Eagle.

Your username is Aenobarbo. It has one of the most complete collections I've seen

Although lately we have lost contact due to my fault, I would like you to participate with your great knowledge in this thread.

I think he will read everything about the German Eagle Order although he does not participate regularly in the forum
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Old 02-21-2018, 04:28 PM   #157
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Pete,
So sorry I haven’t been back to reply to your very gracious response. As I mentioned on PM, Christopher is taking a very short leave due to health reasons, but should be back in the game shortly!
I thank you for your comment, and I ditto the fact that we are looking forward to his next contribution on this great and intriguing topic!
Jesus, again, thanks so much for the effort you have put into this, and to you, Peter as well of course!


To regenerate interest this thread toward the top, I just would like to post a first class without swords I found in my collection, nothing special, but comments on authenticity appreciated. I am gunning for some other, nicer Eagle Orders, but I hope this one gets some comments. Not perfect, but I think it is real.
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Old 02-21-2018, 04:33 PM   #158
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Old 02-21-2018, 04:37 PM   #159
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Sorry gents, these were the only pics that would upload. I’ll reduce the size of the others and upload them ASAP!
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Hi Runic...is 100% real but is not a 1St Eagle Order....is a 3Rd Eagle Order 1943-1945 version (the design is the same as the first class of 1939-1943 but the 900 21 mark on the ring shows that it is a later production of 1943-1945.

In the ordinances/Regulations of this period, the Neck Order is considered third class)

Very very nice and beautiful...Pulgares hacia arriba
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:55 AM   #161
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I'm going to show you my latest acquisition ... it's a miniature medallion pin with medals from different countries:

1-Medal of suffering for the country with red blades.

2 and 3-Medal of the campaign 1936-1939 and medal of the Mehdauia

3, 4 and 5-German Eagle Order third class, Order of the Crown of Italy and cross of Avis of Portugal

The miniature of the Order of the German Eagle is made in Spain but from that period
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Old 03-02-2018, 06:27 AM   #163
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Jesus, we've been through the topic of markings many times before and two pages ago you concluded we can't be sure of their actual significance. The introduction of the "21"-mark is still not 100% established, hence Runic's cross may very well be a pre-43 award (IMHO).

I promised to elaborate on your comments and based on our perception of how to interpret these these marks:

"I have also seen marked "900" and "3" which indicates that that neck order belongs to the period 1943-1945 in my opinion."

This is absolutely correct, a III.Klasse neckcross awarded as such. A neck cross as part of a set would probably feature a "2" or no number at all.

The next comment is highly debatable though:

"I have seen set composed of neck order + order with star with the "900" mark "1" on the ring of the neck order. However, neck orders that are not part of a set show markings such as "900" or "900 21".

The 1.Stufe neckcross awarded as such would feature a "1" on the fan to destinguish the class and if awarded the higher class (Verdienstkreuz mit Stern), only the sixpointed Star in a separate case was awarded. Should the first bestowal be the full set, the neckcross would most probably not be marked with a "1", as that would represent a different class.

As for the 2nd comment, neck crosses with only "900" can be both 1.Stufe neckcross (they simply lack the "1", which is quite common) or part of the set (
Verdienstkreuz mit Stern).

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Old 03-02-2018, 09:20 AM   #164
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That is your opinion Peter. I have my own and, at the moment your arguments do not convince me even though I respect them as much as I ask you for respect for my theory or way of understanding and interpreting the markings ... until conclusive proof 100% says otherwise. ..

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Old 03-02-2018, 09:30 AM   #165
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Absolutely Jesus, every one should be entitled to an opinion of his own and I respect that. All I'm asking is that you present it as such i.e. "IMO" rather than to dismiss the possiblity of Runic's cross being an Erste Stufe. Btw, nice miniatures

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