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Old 08-12-2017, 04:23 PM   #1
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I would love to have a few more opinions on these two SAGINAW produced M1's

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Old 08-12-2017, 04:28 PM   #3
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I would speculate both are put togethers from parts......Both have early bolts and barrel bands, but have later rear sights, safeties, handguards and buttstocks....What are the barrel dates and serial numbers?......Bodes
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:46 PM   #6
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Just at a glance...and I'm no expert, seems like a mix of early and later parts (like maybe "restoration" projects)? Also, the stocks seem sanded or messed with a little. Its hard to tell with these pictures, but those are initial observations. Are you thinking of buying or are these yours?
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I would speculate both are put togethers from parts......Both have early bolts and barrel bands, but have later rear sights, safeties, handguards and buttstocks....What are the barrel dates and serial numbers?......Bodes
They're type 2 barrel bands...Bodes
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:50 PM   #8
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they both are offerd to me, my first quess was that they are from a old military police stock here in Holland.
I asked the seller for pic's of the serial numbers and the saginaw stamps or initials

thanks sofar for the feedback guys

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they both are offerd to me, my first quess was that they are from a old military police stock here in Holland.
I asked the seller for pic's of the serial numbers and the saginaw stamps or initials

thanks sofar for the feedback guys

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Edwin, Are rifles with bayonet lugs illegal for sale in Holland?......Perhaps rifles went through rebuilds and someone removed lugs or replaced barrel bands(?)....Bodes
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The very last of Saginaw production had the milled adjustable sight and type II barrel band, but all production had the push through safety. I believe Saginaw production went into the 5.8 million range, so if not near this range the sight and band are not original to the rifle.
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Edwin, Are rifles with bayonet lugs illegal for sale in Holland?......Perhaps rifles went through rebuilds and someone removed lugs or replaced barrel bands(?)....Bodes
I know the bayonet lugs where removed if used for police duties and that the barrels got a Dutch police stamp. So, i'm waiting till the sellers send me a few more photo's

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Old 08-13-2017, 07:42 AM   #12
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I see two shooter grade carbines, both with replaced parts and refinished stocks. Probably done during a postwar rebuild. There isn't much else to say. If they gun shoot a bullet, that is their value. They aren't museum pieces and never will be, but can be great range guns.
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