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Old 03-02-2010, 12:27 AM   #46
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You can see the battleship grey paint slopped onto the liner, and used to write the initials in the liner. So no doubt that the liner belongs to the helmet. Also you can see the grey paint under the housepaint on the exterior.

I think that German soldiers at the end of the war were using any paint they could get ahold of to camo their helmets, as they knew they were going to have to hide from superior forces and fight defensive battles. Norway was on high alert for an invasion in the spring of 1945. This is well documented. A lot of camo helmets have been found in Norway, and many of them in very unusual and offbeat configurations.
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:56 AM   #48
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This one is in the collections of New York State Miltary Museum , given by the veteran who captured it in Germany. Very similar colors to the first helmet but dulled a bit more.
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:14 AM   #49
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this is a hard nutt...
the matter of bright colours being fake is mumbo jumbo imo.
I would say its good however damaged fairly short after this paint was aplied.... but that won't stick I suppose because new paint ( back then ) doesn't chip right away.
On the other hand, you can be sure if the paint in the damaged area chipped of quit some time after the war.
Its very eays to call this one also a fake...

Fred, could we get some macro's of the edges, the rivets and the decal area's ?
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:34 AM   #50
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Original camos with glossyish bright colors exist. While it is expected to see nice subtle tones , fading and aging, that is not always the case. Some brightly done helmets might have been stashed in a bunker, never used then brought home as trophies and stuck in an attic til now. If there are mint non camos there will also be fresh looking camos. The problem is they are not what collectors like to see or are conditioned to. I can't say if the first helmet is real or not from the photos , but IMO it stands a chance, the paint around the damage to me looks as it should. I hate to bring this up but an XRF test might well tilt the argument one way or the other.
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Original camos with glossyish bright colors exist. While it is expected to see nice subtle tones , fading and aging, that is not always the case. Some brightly done helmets might have been stashed in a bunker, never used then brought home as trophies and stuck in an attic til now. If there are mint non camos there will also be fresh looking camos. The problem is they are not what collectors like to see or are conditioned to.
Wise words, Nutmeg!
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:41 AM   #52
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For members who have interest in camo helmets, thread back from the deads: Interesting to compare mine and the one currently for sale on Estand:

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=931321

Both reissued helmets with bright camo colours in both cases.The one listed is from a luft unit, I believed mine was as well. If seller don't mind, I'll add some pics here.
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Old 10-09-2017, 03:54 AM   #53
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Nice helmet in this post, one looker, IMO!

Just saw this thread, I have a "woodwork" find from Antwerp, Belgium with the same green colours. HKP66 Luftwaffe with a ghost decal.

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https://fjm44.com/product/hkp66-camo...twerp-belgium/

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Old 10-09-2017, 10:30 AM   #54
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Unfortunately we can't add the Estand listed one as its current owner don't want it to see it on another webpage.

Frederik, Dank U for posting your nice helmet and for your comments,

Green has a similar appearance, particularly in its application:
Easy to see with both examples that a thin layer won't be bright while a thicker one will be.


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Old 10-11-2017, 02:20 AM   #55
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Thanks Fred!

You ever have that when you over see the obvious?

I was just looking at my display case and then I remembered I have this one.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:22 AM   #56
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Best regards,

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https://fjm44.com/articles/camouflag...nister-pfk-44/
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:44 PM   #57
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Dank U Frederik!
Yes, look alike!!!!!
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