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Old 04-01-2019, 05:36 PM   #1
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D DAY Through German Eyes - The Hidden Story of June 6th 1944 Paperback – Nov 4 2016 Eckhertz, Holge

Anyone read this? Has good reviews so can't be too much fiction written in.

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Old 04-09-2019, 01:51 PM   #2
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D DAY Through German Eyes - The Hidden Story of June 6th 1944 Paperback – Nov 4 2016 Eckhertz, Holge

Anyone read this? Has good reviews so can't be too much fiction written in.

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Read the reviews and was impressed with them I ordered the paperback on the books 1 and 2 off ebay for less than $15.00 shipped. Thanks for bringing this up to our attention.
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:02 PM   #3
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D DAY Through German Eyes - The Hidden Story of June 6th 1944 Paperback – Nov 4 2016 Eckhertz, Holge

Anyone read this? Has good reviews so can't be too much fiction written in.

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Ive read it, and I read it way too fast!
It was a super interesting book written in small chapters containing histories from different perspectives, such at soldier roles and positions.

Who knows what is true or not, its too me very realistic anyhow.

Buy it and read it, and as me - enjoy it.

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Old 04-15-2019, 10:51 PM   #4
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I did buy it and yes at $15 amazon. Reading some and is interesting.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:36 PM   #5
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Just finished reading this book. Very Very interesting to see D-Day through the German eyes and the reasons they were "defending" France from the Allies.

The actual combat experiences related were harrowing, how men on both sides died.

Great Read, I don't think you would be disappointed.
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:43 AM   #6
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Before giving money to this publisher and author, please realize that this book is highly questionable and is apparently pure fiction:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...brication.html

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...book-tpd9mj0vc
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:30 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=Jean-Loup;8447934]Before giving money to this publisher and author, please realize that this book is highly questionable and is apparently pure fiction:

Fiction...non fiction...can't say one way or another. I put my money down and thoroughly enjoyed the book. The perspective is 180 degrees from what I am familiar with. In fact, it is more absorbing than some of the first hand, factual accounts I have read. I quote from another source which I completely agree with:"The stories are breathtaking accounts by men who were in the front line, and for the most part only survived D day through the most extraordinary of luck, most of their comrades being killed next to them. There are accounts by MG gunners, artillery men, engineer officers, a Stug gunner, and even - rarity- a Goliath tank engineer.
There are horrendous descriptions of the effects of phosphorous grenades and rockets, and of the Allied navy shelling.
There are also lots of interesting comments on relations with the French."

Again, fact or fiction. It doesn't matter to me as it was a highly enjoyable read and definitely worth the $15.00. I have spent a lot more on crappier reads.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:49 AM   #8
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I've only managed to make it through the first chapter of the first book, which was appallingly poor. Nothing seems even a bit genuine, and I'm not even talking about the poor writing skills. We have a 'veteran' doing all he can to describe traumatic experiences in the most graphic detail he can. I've yet to meet a veteran (of any conflict) who does so. You could call it war porn, aimed to attract readers and sell them revisionist nonsense.

The narrative makes no sense either. For one, if you claim you've encountered 'Hanomags', armored cars and StuGs from a Panzer-Division behind Utah Beach on D-Day as well as SS troops, you are making things up.

But it's not the veteran's fault, because he does not exist… It has been written by someone who has an interest in WW2 and has gathered loads of trivia (none of them expert level) but does not understand much of the fighting itself. He even seems to confuse the Wehrmacht and Heer. The term Hanomag (used for armored personnel carriers) is a postwar invention, which probably dates back to 1960s or 70s. The 'veteran' knows too many details about enemy equipment, but fails to identify his own unit, commanders, etc.

The chapter also promotes the 'clean Wehrmacht myth' which has been debunked decades ago. In addition it has the usual argument of the 'heroic Germans, in their pan-European struggle against communism (or capitalism, take your pick) were outgunned and outnumbered but never outfought.'

It's fiction and should be regarded as such.

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Old 05-13-2019, 04:30 PM   #9
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I've only managed to make it through the first chapter of the first book, which was appallingly poor. Nothing seems even a bit genuine, and I'm not even talking about the poor writing skills. We have a 'veteran' doing all he can to describe traumatic experiences in the most graphic detail he can. I've yet to meet a veteran (of any conflict) who does so. You could call it war porn, aimed to attract readers and sell them revisionist nonsense.

The narrative makes no sense either. For one, if you claim you've encountered 'Hanomags', armored cars and StuGs from a Panzer-Division behind Utah Beach on D-Day as well as SS troops, you are making things up.

But it's not the veteran's fault, because he does not exist… It has been written by someone who has an interest in WW2 and has gathered loads of trivia (none of them expert level) but does not understand much of the fighting itself. He even seems to confuse the Wehrmacht and Heer. The term Hanomag (used for armored personnel carriers) is a postwar invention, which probably dates back to 1960s or 70s. The 'veteran' knows too many details about enemy equipment, but fails to identify his own unit, commanders, etc.

The chapter also promotes the 'clean Wehrmacht myth' which has been debunked decades ago. In addition it has the usual argument of the 'heroic Germans, in their pan-European struggle against communism (or capitalism, take your pick) were outgunned and outnumbered but never outfought.'

It's fiction and should be regarded as such.
Thanks for a really good, well thought-out review. I'm interested to read the book anyway, but will wait until it starts showing up secondhand everywhere in a month or so .... Cheers Keith
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When you are interested in history, I think it is of the highest importance to know i a book you are reading is supposed to be factual and represents the recollections of actual veterans, or is a novel written by someone born 30 years after the war that is trying to mascarade as a historical document.
In my opinion, this book is of the second type: a fake document trying to pass itself off as real: something very dangerous and dishonnest.

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Old 05-16-2019, 08:32 AM   #11
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Hi,

Sprech Media is a publishing company known to publish WW2 fantasy/fiction stories, and all the "authors" are most probably pseudonyms "à la Gregory Douglas/Peter Stahl".

Those stories are similar to the (in)famous Gerfaut books published in France from 1964 to 1985, minus the erotic/sex parts.

http://ddata.over-blog.com/xxxyyy/1/...re/GERFAUT.pdf

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Old 05-17-2019, 07:27 AM   #12
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Always remember one thing: History is written by winners.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:11 AM   #13
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Always remember one thing: History is written by winners.

Winston Churchill is often credited for saying "History is written by the victors," but that is a likely a myth.



It is also a myth in general that the victors write the history. History is as much written by the losers as the winners and this has been true since ancient times.


One notable example: The Battle of Teutoburg Forrest. There certainly aren't any Germanic accounts, so what we know of the battle was written by the losers.


More recently, the Nazis certainly "wrote" a history of the First World War that spread lies and misinformation about not really being defeated, etc. In the USA we have the "Lost Cause of the Confederacy Myth," and throughout history we've seen other losers write their histories to remember the defeat. Serbia is a good example of this... remembering the Battle of Kosovo.




The most important thing to understand is that history didn't really happen. History is just our study and recording of past events, so it is always going to subject to the bias of the individuals writing the history.
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Winston Churchill is often credited for saying "History is written by the victors," but that is a likely a myth.



It is also a myth in general that the victors write the history. History is as much written by the losers as the winners and this has been true since ancient times.


One notable example: The Battle of Teutoburg Forrest. There certainly aren't any Germanic accounts, so what we know of the battle was written by the losers.


More recently, the Nazis certainly "wrote" a history of the First World War that spread lies and misinformation about not really being defeated, etc. In the USA we have the "Lost Cause of the Confederacy Myth," and throughout history we've seen other losers write their histories to remember the defeat. Serbia is a good example of this... remembering the Battle of Kosovo.




The most important thing to understand is that history didn't really happen. History is just our study and recording of past events, so it is always going to subject to the bias of the individuals writing the history.
All is true but it changes nothing. Victors survive. Loosers perish. All we can study and know is filtered by victors. Orwell's "1984" is great example of attempt of manipulating history.
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Hi,

can we stay on topic please ?

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