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Old 07-09-2018, 09:20 PM   #1
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Default Luftwaffe jacket, all ok ?

Hi, I was offered this LW jacket, is everything original and WW2 time ? It is a medic, right ? Thanks.








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Old 07-10-2018, 12:17 AM   #2
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The jacket is original , no questions .
The badges are fadded , but medical colour .
The eagle seems to be off centered ?
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:37 AM   #3
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Seems ok, but something seems a bit odd about the piping around the collar? Should it have French cuffs? Maybe foreign made?

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Old 07-10-2018, 03:21 PM   #4
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Oh, i didn’t noticed it... is the jacket itself ww2 time ? My fear is I never saw a 1945-1950s West Germany tunic, I know only 1980s ones, very similar to ww2 ones BUT without French cuffs.
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:09 PM   #5
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Does it have openings on the sleeves bottoms ?
Collar piping is very strange , correct .
50's Polizei jackets don't have the same cut , only after 1955 came the Bundesluftwaffe .
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Old 07-10-2018, 06:29 PM   #6
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Things I see:

Strange piping to collar;

Odd-shaped collar tabs;

No provision for dagger hanger;

No 'French cuffs';

The way the eagle is attached;

The color.

All of these issues point toward a post-war put together tunic, which may not be Luftwaffe, to start with.

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Old 07-10-2018, 08:04 PM   #7
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Things I see:

Strange piping to collar;

Odd-shaped collar tabs;

No provision for dagger hanger;

No 'French cuffs';

The way the eagle is attached;

The color.

All of these issues point toward a post-war put together tunic, which may not be Luftwaffe, to start with.

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Old 07-11-2018, 12:26 PM   #8
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Too many red flags for sure.
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Old 07-11-2018, 03:42 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMS1 View Post
The jacket is original , no questions .
The badges are fadded , but medical colour .
The eagle seems to be off centered ?
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Seems ok, but something seems a bit odd about the piping around the collar? Should it have French cuffs?
Maybe foreign made?

Cheers,

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I am with GAMS1 and bradcancian...
It can easily have been a foreign made uniform. I see no immediate red flags (as in modern details)
Maybe a doctor didn't need a dagger slit if this is his patient visiting work uniform and simple sleeves for the comfort of use (while treating patients)
It has a good chance for me but just not text book...So no tailor tags or no removal signs of any tags? That could be a red flag for it to be something else...
These are all custom made uniforms and tailored per the customer's wishes...So this doctor just wanted simplicity for practicality.
Non text book does not automatically mean it is fake. I personally like it and think it has character and it is a neat branch, medical Luftwaffe and
I would love to own this one! The wide collar to accommodate the large LW collar tabs is a very good sign for me (for it to be war time) and add foreign
collar edge piping...that makes it extra special and unique. The tabs blue branch color looks odd but it exactly matches the boards, a good sign! (also foreign?)
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:43 AM   #10
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What about the collar tabs ?
Very faded but with no wear on the wool ? No corrosion ? Vertical stitching on the gulls ? Are they only genuine ?
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:42 PM   #11
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If it could help, I got new photos.




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Old 07-12-2018, 11:52 PM   #12
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What I see now:

In addition to my previous observations ......................................

- A very worn eagle, the level of wear to which does not appear consistent with the other apparent wear to the tunic;

- Roughly sewn collar tabs (unlikely the work of a tailor, or even a doctor - they learn to stitch too);

- Roughly sewn (really just 'tacked into place') collar trim (cannot describe such as braid);

- Very badly positioned shoulder-board insignia.

If this is an original, untouched 'tailor-made' tunic, I'd have taken it back to the tailor .......................... if I was a Luftwaffe officer.

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Old 07-13-2018, 03:36 AM   #13
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The color of the fabric appears toogray , not bluish gray as it should be. The piping is not the aluminum twisted cord you’d expect. French cuffs are missing. In essence, the details the other forum members have pointed out. I’ve handled quite a few post-WW2 German tunics with a WW2-like cut and features and look old as they were tailored +50 years ago. I believe the tunic posted is one of these embellished with original insignias. A locally/foreign tailoring is a possibility (albeit a remote one IMO).
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:13 PM   #14
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These much better pictures have me think maybe restored?
The boards could have been added at a later date perhaps?
Note the area that was originally not exposed and not faded...
but now it is exposed and shows the non faded original color...
unless simply the seam just came loose...???
COULD BE THE LATTER...
Still like it! Is it for sale?
Btw a sloppy collar tab applications could be a promotion and altered
(outside of a tailor shop) by the owner himself...Not a red flag to me...
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Old 07-13-2018, 07:41 PM   #15
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Thank you all for the help
Yes, is it for sale, a friend sells it for a good price (not gifted but still good).
But I don t know if I will buy it, with all these doubt, or at least unusual, points.
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