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Old 10-24-2016, 03:33 PM   #1
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Recently found this jacket-- I was wondering if anyone would know it's origins and/or how much it might be worth? I tried to do some research but didn't find much.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

thanks!

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Old 10-24-2016, 04:34 PM   #2
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Exciting first post. Welcome!
Even though Liebermuster is not limited to W-SS use this jacket, with SS sleeve eagle, as shown, it probably fits better in the SS forum...
(not a Parka of course but an M44 short jacket as they should be) this is potentially an exciting late war find!
Let my try to repost your image (in case the link breaks).

It appears to be an exciting find with camo rank bar below the eagle, but much better images are needed and a close up of eagle.
The loops for camo foliage above the pockets is also an interesting feature, if it is indeed real...
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Old 10-24-2016, 04:50 PM   #3
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Hope its real!
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Old 10-24-2016, 04:56 PM   #4
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Thank you! Here's some better quality pictures of the loops above the pocket and the eagle.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

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Exciting first post. Welcome!
Even though Liebermuster is not limited to W-SS use this jacket, with SS sleeve eagle, as shown, it probably fits better in the SS forum...
(not a Parka of course but an M44 short jacket as they should be) this is potentially an exciting late war find!
Let my try to repost your image (in case the link breaks).

It appears to be an exciting find with camo rank bar below the eagle, but much better images are needed and a close up of eagle.
The loops for camo above the pockets is also an interesting feature, if it is indeed real...

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Old 10-24-2016, 05:34 PM   #5
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Reproduced here! Looks like a promising bird with good zig-zag application!
Rank bar looks aged and on there a long time!
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Old 10-24-2016, 09:20 PM   #6
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Is the ribbed twill material correct? Or is HBT the only known proper cloth for such garments?
That's turning me off now...Looking at it on a bigger screen!

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Old 10-25-2016, 03:48 AM   #7
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Looks like a promising bird with good zig-zag application!
I can't speculate on the application because there is no way of knowing when that was done but the eagle is 100% original.

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Old 10-25-2016, 04:19 AM   #8
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Is the ribbed twill material correct? Or is HBT the only known proper cloth for such garments?
Both existed - here are (the only old pics I have) pics of a large piece of cloth I found at a fleamarket in the 90s, it was made of 6 panels, 4 of ribbed material, 2 of HBT:
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Both existed - here are (the only old pics I have) pics of a large piece of cloth I found at a fleamarket in the 90s, it was made of 6 panels, 4 of ribbed material, 2 of HBT:
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:56 AM   #10
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very interesting piece with genuine bevo sleeve eagle , appears to be hand sewn but could be war time applied. the name is actually Leiber named after the man who invented it.
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Both existed - here are (the only old pics I have) pics of a large piece of cloth I found at a fleamarket in the 90s, it was made of 6 panels, 4 of ribbed material, 2 of HBT:
I had a feeling that the ribbed material could still have a chance since post war Lieber camo cloth is not ribbed....but wasn't sure!
Appears to be a promising M44 jacket. Wow! Fakes are usually in HBT!

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Of course this material was war time.


Lets see the shirt.

Not the crap shots.
Adrian,
Can you send us more pictures? If you have a hard time posting these because of your limited membership, I can post them for you.
This piece deserves a thorough study, could be something good!
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OK the pictures came through! Insignia is fine!
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:32 PM   #14
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More!
It has what appears to be the same resin buttons as found on tropical SS tunics
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Last one!
Back panel, even the back panel has foliage loops. Very interesting!

Looks convincing to me Adrian! Very fascinating and very rare if real...I like everything about it!
but lets wait and see what the experts have to say!

Any back ground info on it? What is the story behind it? Where found etc?
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