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German Cross in Gold "20" light
Old 03-27-2020, 09:04 AM   #1
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Default German Cross in Gold "20" light

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I would like to have your opinion on this German Cross in Gold made by CF Zimmermann.

Are the flaws around the rivets a big red flag ? Do you have positive feelings about this cross ?

Thanks for your support.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:10 AM   #2
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I don't know about the areas around the rivets, but it looks like a nicely worn original badge and I would be happy to have it.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:09 AM   #3
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Looks like a good Zimm to me also. The area around the rivets at first looks like dents but closer examination is bubbling under the plating maybe from moisture?
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:27 AM   #4
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Original 20 light Zimmerman but looks like someone’s tried to dig the rivets out or tried to replace them

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Old 03-27-2020, 10:51 AM   #5
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Thanks for your feedback. The seller claims it is bubbling during the production of the cross.
Do you think it might be a possible explication ?
Did you already see such flaws ?

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Old 03-27-2020, 12:02 PM   #6
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Similar feature on this one....


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Old 03-27-2020, 12:03 PM   #7
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Hello,
the bubbles are aluminum corrosion.
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Old 03-27-2020, 12:46 PM   #8
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Its a good Zimmermann DKiG, no problems



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Old 03-27-2020, 01:19 PM   #9
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Thanks for your quick feedbacks !
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Old 03-27-2020, 02:13 PM   #10
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Hello,
the bubbles are aluminum corrosion.
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Alex, thank you for that information.

But I thought that aluminum did not corrode.

Do you know how this chemically happens, because for sure I've never seen aluminum corrode on anything, let alone a badge?
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:21 PM   #11
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Hi Gary,
you may know the beginnings of aluminum pitting from car rims, that at the beginning small bubbles form under the paint. They eventually break through the paint.

With your cupal cross, either the copper layer with the silver plating is raised or only the silver plating, in any case, the aluminum appears to be corroding.

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Old 03-27-2020, 05:51 PM   #12
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Nice original Zimmermann IMO.
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:50 PM   #13
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Hi Gary,
you may know the beginnings of aluminum pitting from car rims, that at the beginning small bubbles form under the paint. They eventually break through the paint.

With your cupal cross, either the copper layer with the silver plating is raised or only the silver plating, in any case, the aluminum appears to be corroding.

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Thanks, Alex, I'll have to check some car rims.

Never really paid attention till now.
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:17 AM   #14
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Hello Gary,
you will find pics in the Internet.
Aluminum pitting results from an electrochemical reaction between two metals, an 'electrically' noble and a base one (aluminum plate and metal clips, tacking nails underneath or aluminum sheet and water).
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:53 AM   #15
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Fine original. What happened is some kind of chemical reaction. But nothing wrong with this cross.


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