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Early ZB and THW items
Old 02-21-2010, 10:45 PM   #1
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Although I don't really have a strong interest in esoteric uniforms, I somehow managed to accumulate a nice pile of very early BW ZB and THW uniforms and field gear. There are few people I know in my collecting circle that even know what ZB or THW are, so I'm pleased to share pics/info with those who so

Most of ZB stuff came from one seller who was cleaning out an attic, so I presume the kit all came from the original owner.

1957 ZB (Cotton). Jacket has zipper beneath the buttons, no sign of insignia being worn.



1963 ZB (Cotton). Jacket doesn't have the zipper of the 57 model, but still has a double flapped design.



1963 ZB (Wool). My guess is the above two equate to "Einsatzanzug" and this wool one Dienstanzug. But that's just a guess.



1963 THW (Wool). Very similar to the ZB uniform pictured above, but the wool is more charcoal colored and of a different wool blend. Otherwise it's pretty much the same thing.



I ran out of time tonight and therefore couldn't take pictures of the field kit, shirts, sweaters, hats, belts, and helmet (white fiber type) that I have. As time permits this week I'll make a stab at it if there appears to be interest.

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Old 02-22-2010, 11:40 AM   #2
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Steve, nice to see these jackets with collar tabs etc ... most time these show up over here in germany they come from depot stock bare of anything beside the ZB patch on the arm !
Also nice if its a grouping!

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Old 02-23-2010, 12:53 AM   #3
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Hi Jens,

Yes, the grouping is why I purchased the items. I do not have the time, energy, money, or space to spend chasing down little odd bits of ZB or THW kit. But when I saw such a large amount of really old ZB stuff for sale at one time, and cheap (ah... the days of the weak Euro were nice for me!), I could not pass on it.

Here are some pictures of the other items that came with my ZB purchase:

ZB stamped belt, water bottle, and mess kit. The small breadbag has no internal pockets and I can't see any markings on it. I also have a brown leather ZB marked strap for the mess kit and a smaller one, probably for a backpack.



White fiberglass helmet. Cheap plastic chin strap. Marked ZB at the rear just above the sweat band.





I'm not 100% sure the metal gasmask can and gasmask (they are correctly paired) are ZB or not. I purchased this separately and there are no markings on it other than the manufacturer. The blue cloth gasmask bag is marked ZB.



Wool scarf? (very large for a scarf!), socks, and gloves. No markings on any of these items, but they came with everything else. The hat is ZB marked and dated 1963.



A wool sweater and kahki service shirt also came with the above items, as did the khaki, blue-gray, and gray wool uniforms.

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Old 02-23-2010, 03:01 AM   #4
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....and even in these pictures some of the stuff hard to get over here ! Although i had the chance to get some stuff out of a former depot at my home town I wasn`t able to get things like the khaki scarf or the gloves yet... . The main problem with ZB is that stuff is rare as long as another old stock is emptied and 500 pairs of gloves enter the marked...

The NBC mask in the WH stile container may be a "recyceling produkt" - reused or made on the same machinery. The correct mask for the fabric-bag is the white rubber mask called M56 Z. You`ll find pictures in one of the older threads here...

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Old 02-24-2010, 12:10 PM   #5
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Steve,

I envy you this almost complete set of ZB/THW kit. I have a number of these uniforms but none with insignia. You have added something to my reference material and I am very greatful for that.

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Old 02-24-2010, 12:22 PM   #6
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Gordon,

No problem! Personally, I'm just happy to find someone who actually knows what this stuff is, not to mention appreciates it. If I'm able to help a fellow collector out, that's a very pleasurable bonus for me I am primarily a military camouflage collector so just about everybody else I'm in contact with is either uninterested, uninformed, or both when it comes to non-military BDR stuff.

I will have some time tomorrow and will take pictures of the shirts, sweaters, and anything else I can think of lying around. I know I have a wool THW M43 hat, for example. I've also got some older Zoll stuff I'll post.

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Old 04-11-2013, 04:15 PM   #7
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I like your collection, the Bund really does give a feel of the strong unification the German people share.

I have a 1962 Wool coat of the Bund. I bought it with no patches on it from the internet to wear as a coat myself (I take nice care of it )

Could I get some more information on the wool uniform itself? When it was worn; perhaps some reference pictures of it in being worn in the field?

Also, could you shed some light on what those pockets are inside the jacket itself? The two dual-pockets look like they would be nice for a handgun round, though I doubt that would be a feature of a civil defense uniform. Also, what are the two clips for hanging from either side that look to suspend something?

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Persurs,

Welcome to the forum. I'll let Simon or one of the other advanced collectors in this area answer your questions.

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A nice Bundeswehr Style Backpack.
matches exactlyexcept for the colour, just the Straps are different.
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Same as the 1st Backpack I posted but in Khaki.
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Sadly not with the original content.
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The straps are for the Fieldtelephones FF OB/ZB
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Old 12-23-2017, 05:08 AM   #13
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Quote:
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The straps are for the Fieldtelephones FF OB/ZB
Oops, thaw this quite late.
Thanks for the Info!
Thought so, but wasn't sure as I only know the long Army ones, but the Clips are typical.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:40 AM   #14
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There's three belts for the Fug6 radio on eBay now. One has the shoulder strap, two do not. Different color variations too!

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Is this an early Luftschutz Shelter or as the Seller told me, a German Made for the french?
Middle Height is 172cm, bottom is 244cm wide.
Marked with a Maker from Hof, 1954.
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