wehrmacht awards


Go Back   Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums > Ken Jasper International Militaria Forums > Imperial Uniforms and Headgear

Imperial Uniforms and Headgear Imperial German Pickelhaubes and Uniforms.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

German caps
Old 05-31-2017, 04:53 PM   #1
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default German caps

I recently bought a lot of military material. Inside I found these pieces. Can you help me understand what it is? It's not my topic. The shoulder straps I think are German but I'm not sure.
thank you very much.




  Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-2017, 09:58 PM   #2
Chip M
Member
 
Chip M's Avatar
 
Chip M is offline
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Midwest
Posts: 4,263
Default

Hello,

The shoulder boards are those of a Prussian major. The underlay material is not showing in your picture, so I can't tell you anything else.

The caps appear to be a that of a Dragoon portepee NCO (although the body of the cap is darker blue than you would expect for an Dragoon) and a Prussian infantry enlisted man's.

Chip
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-02-2017, 04:08 AM   #3
kaiserwilhelm2
Association Member
 
kaiserwilhelm2's Avatar
 
kaiserwilhelm2 is online now
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NORWAY
Posts: 3,998
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chip M View Post
Hello,

The shoulder boards are those of a Prussian major. The underlay material is not showing in your picture, so I can't tell you anything else.

The caps appear to be a that of a Dragoon portepee NCO (although the body of the cap is darker blue than you would expect for an Dragoon) and a Prussian infantry enlisted man's.

Chip
+1

Although I find the wool and further details on the Dragoon cap quite rough - I would have expected a nicer quality cap for something Imperial. Passo can you provide an interior shot of that cap?
__________________
Collector of IMPERIAL/WWI German CYPHERED SHOULDER BOARDS, WWI MEDAL BARS WITH EK2s, German and Austro-Hungarian Imperial TUNICS, HEADGEAR and Belt BUCKLES.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-25-2017, 05:41 AM   #4
BenVK
Association Member
 
BenVK's Avatar
 
BenVK is offline
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Posts: 10,586
Default

I would suggest that it's a veterans association caps from the 1920's/30's.
  Reply With Quote

Old 12-29-2017, 06:21 PM   #5
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default

dear all.
now I can finally provide more images of the caps. I found another one,I think of cavallerie.
Thanks for your help.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6053.jpg (90.9 KB, 189 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6054.jpg (152.4 KB, 190 views)
  Reply With Quote

..
Old 12-29-2017, 06:22 PM   #6
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default ..

.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6057.jpg (151.3 KB, 188 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6058.jpg (159.8 KB, 188 views)
  Reply With Quote

..
Old 12-29-2017, 06:23 PM   #7
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default ..

..
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6059.jpg (184.2 KB, 192 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6060.jpg (229.2 KB, 191 views)
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-05-2018, 02:35 PM   #8
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default

x
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6062.jpg (163.5 KB, 125 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6063.jpg (134.9 KB, 126 views)
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-05-2018, 02:36 PM   #9
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default

xx
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6064.jpg (243.4 KB, 125 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6061.jpg (208.4 KB, 125 views)
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-05-2018, 02:37 PM   #10
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default

xxx
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6045.jpg (199.5 KB, 126 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6046.jpg (171.0 KB, 126 views)
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-05-2018, 02:37 PM   #11
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default

c
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN6046.jpg (171.0 KB, 122 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN6050.jpg (236.4 KB, 123 views)
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-07-2018, 07:04 AM   #12
enorepap
Member
 
enorepap's Avatar
 
enorepap is online now
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 2,849
Default

Ciao Passostanco

With regards to the first visor, no Dragoner-Regts in my opinion, because the fabric of the top was light blue. Consequently, I agree with Ben: something else, but not Cavalry. I suggest you post it on the clothgear forum because something interesting (far beyond my limited experience) could come up.

For the second, no problem: Infantry enlisted.

The third is a real puzzle, because this was the configuration of 9 & 11th Ulanen-Rgts.

The history of Kemner, during WW2 and postwar, was already written in this thread (posts 358/360):

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...geiger&page=24

For the pre WW1 period, in 1905 no Kemner in Hellwegstr. 3:

http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index...5.djvu&page=63

but Heinrich Kemner, hatmaker, + Johann in Obere Marktstr. 27:

http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index....djvu&page=326
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index...5.djvu&page=94

With reference to the construction details, I don’t like the grey underside of the peak (I hope it is white in reality); the grey lining which bears a tailor label very uncommon for a pre-WW1 visor; finally the stirndruckfrei remains and the seam at the base of the white band, both also very uncommon. I think of a much more recent visor revitalized with two officer cockades also made after the imperial age. Also in this case I suggest you post it on the clothgear forum for a definitive (at least I hope) answer.

Best regards
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-07-2018, 07:55 AM   #13
kaiserwilhelm2
Association Member
 
kaiserwilhelm2's Avatar
 
kaiserwilhelm2 is online now
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NORWAY
Posts: 3,998
Default

Third visor is not imperial but made to look like one.
First visor, colour scheme possible for Dragoons but the overall quality is not what I would expect for an officer cap.
Infantry cap looks ok.
__________________
Collector of IMPERIAL/WWI German CYPHERED SHOULDER BOARDS, WWI MEDAL BARS WITH EK2s, German and Austro-Hungarian Imperial TUNICS, HEADGEAR and Belt BUCKLES.
  Reply With Quote

Old 01-07-2018, 07:06 PM   #14
Passo Stanco
Association Member
 
Passo Stanco is offline
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Italia
Posts: 66
Default

thank you very much!
the underside of the peak is grey!
it looks like a very old building because there are rusty metal stops and reinforcements that do not seem to have been recently put.
I will also take pictures of the interior with sunlight.
thanks for your opinions!
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump






vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright Wehrmacht-Awards.com