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Old 01-03-2018, 04:39 PM   #16
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Very nice setup Hans Kristian.

Great way to start the new year

I would like to know why you are doubting the devices on the straps?

Let me wish you a healthy and prosperous 2018.

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Old 01-13-2018, 12:00 PM   #17
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Not a lot of comments...no one..?..
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:24 PM   #18
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Hi Kristian.
I'd find a better eagle and replace the tatty example (use a later rayon item) but you'll need to leave it in the 'new' position as someone's made a pigs ear when removing the original by putting a rip/hole in it. If you move the new eagle into actual position, the hole will be exposed.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:52 PM   #19
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Hi Mark, many thanks for this input.

Yes, you are probably right, I will look for one.
And you agree with me on the previous position..?..

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I'd find a better eagle and replace the tatty example (use a later rayon item) but you'll need to leave it in the 'new' position as someone's made a pigs ear when removing the original by putting a rip/hole in it. If you move the new eagle into actual position, the hole will be exposed.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:30 PM   #20
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Hello Hans,
I do - you can see where the eagle was originally sewn and the old threads are still evident.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:24 PM   #21
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Never ever seen tropical boards with basket weave piping. We were discussing this here in NZ the other day, in the case of another tropical shoulder board. I spoke to a couple of collectors who have a reasonable selection of veteran brought back tropical boards. No one had or had seen a tropical board with basket weave. However, some recalled fakes made with such piping.

The boards need to be double checked if you want to be sure.

Has NZ Mark or any of the collectors in Australia had a tropical board with such piping ?

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Hello Chris and thanks for the comment.

I did read about this in other threads.

To supplement the history of the tunic as I know from the previous owner:
He bought it in Italy some 9-10 years ago and from his knowledge it was found in Italy.
Does that change the look on the piping..?... maybe the boards are from 1943/44 ..?..just a thought..

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Never ever seen tropical boards with basket weave piping. We were discussing this here in NZ the other day, in the case of another tropical shoulder board. I spoke to a couple of collectors who have a reasonable selection of veteran brought back tropical boards. No one had or had seen a tropical board with basket weave. However, some recalled fakes made with such piping.

The boards need to be double checked if you want to be sure.

Has NZ Mark or any of the collectors in Australia had a tropical board with such piping ?

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Never ever seen tropical boards with basket weave piping. We were discussing this here in NZ the other day, in the case of another tropical shoulder board. I spoke to a couple of collectors who have a reasonable selection of veteran brought back tropical boards. No one had or had seen a tropical board with basket weave. However, some recalled fakes made with such piping.

The boards need to be double checked if you want to be sure.

Has NZ Mark or any of the collectors in Australia had a tropical board with such piping ?

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Hi Chris -
NO - never. I also have the same concerns on the straps.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:12 AM   #24
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Hello Chris and thanks for the comment.

I did read about this in other threads.

To supplement the history of the tunic as I know from the previous owner:
He bought it in Italy some 9-10 years ago and from his knowledge it was found in Italy.
Does that change the look on the piping..?... maybe the boards are from 1943/44 ..?..just a thought..

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Hello Hans,

Italian campaign 44/ 45 is a possibility. But it is something no one here who has veteran brought back tropical boards, has ever seen. In New Zealand, the boards which turn up came from both Afrika 1941-43 and Italy 1943-45

It would be interesting to know how the Australian, USA and German tropical collectors view them ???

Collectors here in NZ feel things are not right with them,

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Chris, many thanks for the input. It is really appreciated.

I would be curious to hear other opinions.



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Italian campaign 44/ 45 is a possibility. But it is something no one here who has veteran brought back tropical boards, has ever seen. In New Zealand, the boards which turn up came from both Afrika 1941-43 and Italy 1943-45

It would be interesting to know how the Australian, USA and German tropical collectors view them ???

Collectors here in NZ feel things are not right with them,

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Old 01-15-2018, 11:23 AM   #26
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The wool cloth backing is made of M44 wool IMO ,not tropical brown wool which will lead us to the 44-45 period ?
A Period where basket weave piping is pretty much used ?
I already observed basket weave piping in the making of LW sand tropical boards ?
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The wool cloth backing is made of M44 wool IMO ,not tropical brown wool which will lead us to the 44-45 period ?
A Period where basket weave piping is pretty much used ?
I already observed basket weave piping in the making of LW sand tropical boards ?
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That would make sense and I would not be adverse to that theory. They certainly did use basket weave piping to make the M44 boards towards the end of the war.

When I first looked at the wool back, I thought it was trying to be the last version of the Olive brown wool used to make the tropical greatcoat. The last shade had more of an Olive hue to it when compared with earlier wools used. See the images below of the stripe for an example of such wool.

However, I would be interested to learn what other have seen or think. Until now, I have never heard of a tropical board with M44 brownish hue wool backing but agree that is a realistic possibility.

Equally, the possibility of a high quality fake must also be considered.

Anyone else have a board like this ?

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Comparison of the wool backing with tropical great coat wool.

The difference in hues based on images alone is apparent. the backing on the tropical shoulder board would indeed appear to be later war uniform wool.

Which brings me to what the tongue of the shoulder strap is lined with. It looks to be a linen or is it a duck material ? A clearer image of that would help,

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Old 01-15-2018, 04:44 PM   #29
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Comparison of the wool backing with tropical great coat wool.

The difference in hues based on images alone is apparent. the backing on the tropical shoulder board would indeed appear to be later war uniform wool.

Which brings me to what the tongue of the shoulder strap is lined with. It looks to be a linen or is it a duck material ? A clearer image of that would help,

Chris
Chris, I will post photos in detail tomorrow of the boards. Thanks all for the input so far. I learn all the time..

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Old 01-15-2018, 05:39 PM   #30
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At first the piping was a concern to me. But, Nick has a point, regarding late boards. Certainly there are late Luft tropical boards which have similar piping.

Hans, I am a little confused by your statement regarding the thread being the same for the application of the tabs, NCO tress, and the trade patch. Why would they, as the trade patch would not be factory applied?
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