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Old 01-02-2013, 03:46 PM   #1
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Good day Guys

I have the opportunity to pick up 10x50 bino's as a part trade and there are 2 to choose from. As a newbie when it comes to optics I would appreciate some help with regards to whether they are good wartime issue bino's, what the serial numbers stand for and also if the cases are good. I had a look on the forum and the BLC's seem like a good pair. I still need to do more research on the second pair. Any advice would be appreciated.

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This is the second pair.
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Last 2 pictures. Thanks for looking.

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:11 PM   #9
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Hi,
the first one is an original wartime binoculars from Carl Zeiss Jena.
The case is not original from this bino but original wartime. i think it is from a kriegsmarine binoculars with gasmask okulars.

the second one is a nice bino from hensoldt wetzlar with original case. in my opinion it is postwar but from 1945.
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the blc 10x50 is mid war.. nice. Yes the case is navy and worth more than the glasses. The hensoldts are wartime I.M.H.O. and so is the case.. they made a 10X50 and 7x56 the paint is peeling which is very common with these..

Overall both sets are decent.. they seem to vary in price depending on location. Being were you are its hard to say. In the us the 10x50's alone only bring 100.00 but the case might sell for 250.00 or more.

The hensoldts with case might bring 200-250 they seem to be more popular than the blc/beh 10x50's the fact that the hensoldts dont have dienstglas or bmj on them is something Ive wondered about. Dylant is a trade name of theirs I think ? And I have seen many wartime sets marked this way. Im not sure if hensolds serial records were lost.. Zeiss is great cause you can look you;re glasses up on their web site to this day..
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:09 AM   #11
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Dylant is a trade name of theirs I think ? And I have seen many wartime sets marked this way. ..

Dialyt is Roof-prism
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:18 AM   #12
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the blc 10x50 is mid war.. nice. Yes the case is navy and worth more than the glasses. The hensoldts are wartime I.M.H.O. and so is the case.. they made a 10X50 and 7x56 the paint is peeling which is very common with these..

Overall both sets are decent.. they seem to vary in price depending on location. Being were you are its hard to say. In the us the 10x50's alone only bring 100.00 but the case might sell for 250.00 or more.

The hensoldts with case might bring 200-250 they seem to be more popular than the blc/beh 10x50's the fact that the hensoldts dont have dienstglas or bmj on them is something Ive wondered about. Dylant is a trade name of theirs I think ? And I have seen many wartime sets marked this way. Im not sure if hensolds serial records were lost.. Zeiss is great cause you can look you;re glasses up on their web site to this day..
Hi,
some questions to the hensoldt bino:
the bino is marked with "Hensoldt-Wetzlar" and has no markings like "Dienstglas". beyond it is marked with "Dialyt".
since November 1940 all military used binos had to marked with an code instead of the full factory name.
and the bino has no leather or replacement-material cover.
therefore the bino could not be wartime.
IMO the bino was build shortly after the end of the war.

only some questions to think about it.

sorry for my bad english but i think you know what i mean.
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Hi Carston,
the serial number of 34337 is consistent with pre war -1940 production. late war sand coloured 10x50 bmj Dienstglas were around 567962.
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Hi Carston,
the serial number of 34337 is consistent with pre war -1940 production. late war sand coloured 10x50 bmj Dienstglas were around 567962.
Hi Stew,
perhaps you are right.
but i think there is no really system in the serial numbers of Hensoldt.
do you know the sand coloured bmj binos with the markings D.F. instead of Dienstglas?
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:34 PM   #15
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This thread is related to the discussion at http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=631461 and there is yet another thread linked in the lower posts on that thread about these low serialed Hensoldt (say 1-40,000) optics.


They are for sure not pre war for many reasons only one of which is that the case closures are dated 42-44 and this is on maybe 15 sets that I have seen...many untouched from the families.

They may in fact be immediate post war (45 and early 46) but they are made from mostly if not entirely wartime parts including the cases and I have seen none marked for export (Germany).

They could I suppose also be wartime and made for private military sales (to officers) and assigned a number range outside of the normal military contracts. There is some method to the madness with the numbers. I have found the 7x56 grouped around 15,000-20,000 and the 10x50 in the 35,000 range.....there may have been other styles produced in this overall range as well like 6x30s...but I don't follow those.

I personally have seen these 10x50 and 7x56 (in this 1-40,000 range) with the Hensoldt name and in at least four different finishes/coverings.......including black paint, black "rice", black leatherrette and ordnance tan paint.

Interesting that more about these is not known or at least posted/published.
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